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06-29-2007, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by KwaiQ
Simple. God's Spirit was in Christ so therefore we say Jesus was God. The man Christ Jesus had a beginning when the Spirit overshadowed Mavy and He was born of a virgin.
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Exactly.
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06-29-2007, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by sola gratia
person is given to each member of the Godhead because this most well represents the interaction between Father, Son and Holy Spirit. I agree the distinction is more the nature
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Please start a thread where the intereaction exists between Father and Spirit, Spirit and Father, Son and Spirit, Spirit and Son....this should be good
As for the interaction between Father and Son, since none exists prior to the incarnation then would you say such interaction of person is as a human person to a Divine person?
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-10-2007, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
As for the interaction between Father and Son, since none exists prior to the incarnation then would you say such interaction of person is as a human person to a Divine person?
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John 17:5: 'The glory which I had WITH YOU BEFORE the world was.' (Context in verse 1 is the Son praying to the Father, notice 'Father' at John 17:1).
Also John 17:24: 'Thou lovesth me from BEFORE the foundation of the world.'
Please answer these verses.
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07-11-2007, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Iron_Bladder
John 17:5: 'The glory which I had WITH YOU BEFORE the world was.' (Context in verse 1 is the Son praying to the Father, notice 'Father' at John 17:1).
Also John 17:24: 'Thou lovesth me from BEFORE the foundation of the world.'
Please answer these verses.
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John 17:5 is discussed in detail in the book linked here: http://www.amazon.com/God-Three-What...4169541&sr=8-1
As for John 17:24, do you remember in Revelation where it said that Jesus was slain from before the foundation of the world? Do you believe that Jesus was literally slain at some point in time before the Creation?
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07-11-2007, 06:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iron_Bladder
John 17:5: 'The glory which I had WITH YOU BEFORE the world was.' (Context in verse 1 is the Son praying to the Father, notice 'Father' at John 17:1).
Also John 17:24: 'Thou lovesth me from BEFORE the foundation of the world.'
Please answer these verses.
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I have no reason to answer anything you post since you don't kindly do the same. I was referring to Old Testament scriptures
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-11-2007, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Chan
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and that he predestined us in Christ. How can God do that if we don't exist, unless IB is a Mormon??!
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-12-2007, 12:51 AM
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Is the Son, God?
Is God eternal?
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07-12-2007, 02:31 AM
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Is the Son man?
Is man eternal?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-12-2007, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Is the Son man?
Is man eternal?
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What is it about God that makes Him the Son.
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07-12-2007, 09:20 AM
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eternal sonship is simply a designation of Jesus being eternal... much ado about nothing
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