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Old 02-17-2011, 02:31 PM
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Re: Survey About Doctrinal Beliefs

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No, it's not a "Lib split" at all. It's just an alternative and there are several that are active both places. It is not, in any way, a "Split" and it's not just made up of "Libs."
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Old 02-17-2011, 02:34 PM
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Re: Survey About Doctrinal Beliefs

If nobody can quote Adino saying he does not believe in Repentance then you should stop making that accusation
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Old 02-17-2011, 02:54 PM
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Re: Survey About Doctrinal Beliefs

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No, it's not a "Lib split" at all. It's just an alternative and there are several that are active both places. It is not, in any way, a "Split" and it's not just made up of "Libs."
NOW - c'mon work with me here! I know I'm stretching a point, but I think it is there, even if a small one!
I am on both forums, also!
Never been on AMF, though.
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Old 02-17-2011, 03:18 PM
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NOW - c'mon work with me here! I know I'm stretching a point, but I think it is there, even if a small one!
I am on both forums, also!
Never been on AMF, though.


I'm serious. If it were a split that stormed off in anger, I wouldn't have anything to do with it. That never feels good no matter how justified the cause seems. And OPII, as out there as he is at times, is making a pretty decent point with this thread, that very few here are "traditional apostolics." I knew the number was down, but I didn't realize it was so few...what is it, two or three that have answered the questions correctly? So this forum is "Lib" all the way, I'd say. How could there be a Lib split from a Lib forum?

When I first got on here, I posted something about my view of things concerning the Holy Spirit and salvation and all hell broke loose. Now, if I say that, no one would notice...except for the yawns.
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Old 02-17-2011, 02:35 PM
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I've expressed some dismay at the heavy criticism here when all I've done is promote the basic Acts2:38 New Birth message. It's basics of belief in repentance, baptism in water in Jesus' name, and the infilling of the Holy Ghost evidenced by speaking with other tongues.

So could I get an idea of what's here at AFF and just see what people believe by asking these questions?

1: Do you believe that water baptism must be done in the name of Jesus and that any other baptism is not a valid baptism?

2: Do you believe that the infilling of the Holy Ghost is evidenced only by speaking with other tongues?

3: Do you believe these things are absolutely necessary in order to be saved and ready for heaven?

4: Do you hold as a core value the basics of traditional pentecostal holiness which is: Men: full length pants, shirts with sleeves, short hair, Women: uncut hair, no makeup, no pants, shirts with sleeves?

5: Do you believe a trinitarian will go to heaven?
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Yes
not necessarily. some i agree with others not so much. I do not think men and women should cross dress. using a 1950's understanding of what is and is not womens clothing makes no sense in the current era.

I believe tha any trinitarin that is baptized in Jesus name and is full of the Holy Ghost (as you and I understand that to mean)...and has a revalation of the mighty God in Christ will absolutly make heaven his (or her) home.
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not necessarily. some i agree with others not so much. I do not think men and women should cross dress. using a 1950's understanding of what is and is not womens clothing makes no sense in the current era.

I believe tha any trinitarin that is baptized in Jesus name and is full of the Holy Ghost (as you and I understand that to mean)...and has a revalation of the mighty God in Christ will absolutly make heaven his (or her) home.

Can I ask you something, Ferd? Before you got involved in internet forums, would you have answered the same way on numbers 4 and 5?
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Re: Survey About Doctrinal Beliefs

My views on "standards" began before there was an internet.

That someone changed their views while being a denizen of the Internet does not mean the Internet had anything to do with it. It may have happened anyway
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  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
  5. That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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My views on "standards" began before there was an internet.

That someone changed their views while being a denizen of the Internet does not mean the Internet had anything to do with it. It may have happened anyway
In that way, the internet is a good thing. These black holes of ignorance people were trapped in, being led by one, mighty, charismatic and powerful leader are coming to an end. People are smarter than that, and they have libraries at their fingertips now.
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My views on "standards" began before there was an internet.

That someone changed their views while being a denizen of the Internet does not mean the Internet had anything to do with it. It may have happened anyway


If someone changed their view of standards and grace because of the internet, then God bless the internet!!
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Can I ask you something, Ferd? Before you got involved in internet forums, would you have answered the same way on numbers 4 and 5?
yes. in fact I am the rare exception to the "internet rule"

I have become more conservative since i found these forums.

AND let me also add, that where i disagree with my more conservative brothers, I still have very deep respect for thier views and convictions.
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