Is there anyone who is Apostolic anymore? - Page 10

BroJoe · #1 07-06-2012, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jabez

Do you really know what rebellion is?

I sure do.

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Just because you obey what men in the church think, that does not mean that you are obedient to God.

You're completely backwards. I'm not obedient men to be obedient to God. I'm obedient to God, so therefore I'm obedient to men...

"Obey them that have the rule over you...for they watch for your souls."-
Hebrews 13:17

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And who decides when you are released? Who gives you the say so? The blessings?

God will release me when the time is right. How will I know, God will speak to my heart. Then I will await for confirmation and pray for confirmation. "Out of the mouth of two or three..."

If God tells me to do something, it's wise to wait for confirmation.

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You think God sent you to a man of God and you have got to be under his total obedience?

Yes, God sent me to the man of God. Or vice versa, if you think about it

. I want to be obedient to him. He never told me I have to be obedient to him or I'm out of the church.

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You do not realize how unscriptural your statement really is. Paul says in Galatians 1: 10. For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? For if I yet please men, I should not be a servant of Christ.

If you are trying to be a man pleaser, you are in rebellion to Christ and you are totally against what Christ has called you to be.

According to this verse of Scripture, your own statement has put you outside of Christ. You are not serving Christ, but you are utterly serving your pastor.

Romans 8:14 says if you be led by the Spirit of God, ye are the sons of God.
Galatians 4 teaches that as long as you are a child you are under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the Father. But when you truly know Christ like you should know Christ, you will be free to serve Him directly and not have to ask anybody what to say or do.

Now that is Apostolic because it is taught by an Apostle named Paul.

My above answers will suffice the rest of this.

johnny44 · #2 07-06-2012, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BroJoe

I understood the spirit in which he was talking.

There is a great shaking happening right now. Everything that can be shook, will be shook.

You think I'm gonna flop out because I don't agree with wearing no shorts and loose my salvation over a spirit of rebellion? While wearing shorts won't cost me my salvation, a spirit of rebellion will. And I believe with all my heart that GOD sent me to my Man of God and until I'm released I'm in utter obedience.

I'm hanging on tight and I'll let my Pastor and leaders give an account to God for any non-biblical issues...

Wasn't Jim Jones a pastor?

BroJoe · #3 07-05-2012, 05:41 PM

People don't want to be told what to do anymore. They don't want to be corrected on anything. Men have the biggest issue with this, but women as well. Pastors aren't allowed to say anything that will make anyone feel uncomfortable anymore.

God help us. In the time we need to be united the most against the enemy, we are fragmented over shorts, make-up, and television...

We need to get lost in the presence of God, then we wouldn't have time to squabble over standards...

CAD/JPY · #4 07-07-2012, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BroJoe

We need to get lost in the presence of God, then we wouldn't have time to squabble over standards...

For myself, it was getting lost in the presence of God and repeatedly asking for wisdom... that brought me to a realization of why I needed to critically examine standards. It wasn't squabbling, I believe it was God leading me to question non-biblical requirements being taught as salvation or adherence to the Faith.

People talk about a Damascus road experience, but like Paul, can you handle it when the revelation goes against most beliefs you were "schooled" to believe?

You might be surprised where the Spirit wants to lead you...

houston · #5 07-05-2012, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BroJoe

People don't want to be told what to do anymore. They don't want to be corrected on anything. Men have the biggest issue with this, but women as well. Pastors aren't allowed to say anything that will make anyone feel uncomfortable anymore.

God help us. In the time we need to be united the most against the enemy, we are fragmented over shorts, make-up, and television...

We need to get lost in the presence of God, then we wouldn't have time to squabble over standards...

We don't care that you think you can earn your salvation by following your pastor's rules that are based on poor exegesis and misinterpreted Scriptures.

It is YOUR side that condemns us for walking in freedom.

BroJoe · #6 07-05-2012, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by houston

We don't care that you think you can earn your salvation by following your pastor's rules that are based on poor exegesis and misinterpreted Scriptures.

It is YOUR side that condemns us for walking in freedom.

Nope, my salvation was bought and paid for by Jesus Christ the Messiah. It's a gift

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I'm not condemning you for walking in whatever way you wish to walk in.

Have I not already stated that if you haven't left Acts 2:38, 1 God, and Holiness then you're not backslidden, in my opinion?

I promise you this. We are both going to stand before God one day and explain every action we have ever given.

One of two things is going to happen.

1. Well done.

2. Depart from me, you worker of iniquity

Let's both do our parts and help each other to hear that well done.

Blessings.

houston · #7 07-05-2012, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BroJoe

Context, context, context.

Say it with me...

Exactly why you're wrong.

AreYouReady? · #8 07-05-2012, 07:46 PM

Let me further make a point.

In UPC, if a man commits adultery, he can never ever hold a license to preach with the UPC. Not even if he repents and becomes the most honorable saint in the system. What happens to the man whose gift and calling to serve the Lord in the capacity the Lord called him to serve is refused admittance to preach and pastor? (The gifts and callings of the Lord are without repentance.)

hometown guy · #9 07-05-2012, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

Let me further make a point.

In UPC, if a man commits adultery, he can never ever hold a license to preach with the UPC. Not even if he repents and becomes the most honorable saint in the system. What happens to the man whose gift and calling to serve the Lord in the capacity the Lord called him to serve is refused admittance to preach and pastor? (The gifts and callings of the Lord are without repentance.)

The bible calls for a bishop to be blameless... If a pastor fell when he was a pastor I would not want him ever trying to work in a situation with me and my wife if he has already fallen in that position...

Sam · #10 07-05-2012, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by hometown guy

The bible calls for a bishop to be blameless... If a pastor fell when he was a pastor I would not want him ever trying to work in a situation with me and my wife if he has already fallen in that position...

God can't forgive and restore?