Uncut Hair

[Aquila]

We're just as riddled with the traditions and doctrines of man as any other Christian church.

And we wonder why we are not seeing revival fires and expansion of the Kingdom.

And those who would prophetically call us to repent of this error and return to the Scriptures are regarded as rebellious trouble makers, renegades, and undesirables. Hmmm... weren't the real prophets of the Bible disliked by earthly institutions who were fully invested keeping their traditions alive??? The more things change... the more they stay the same.

What they don't realize is, rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Aquila

We're just as riddled with the traditions and doctrines of man as any other Christian church.

And we wonder why we are not seeing revival fires and expansion of the Kingdom.

And those who would prophetically call us to repent of this error and return to the Scriptures are regarded as rebellious trouble makers, renegades, and undesirables. Hmmm... weren't the real prophets of the Bible disliked by earthly institutions who were fully invested keeping their traditions alive??? The more things change... the more they stay the same.

What they don't realize is, rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

We saw 50 people receive the Holy Ghost at FPC this past weekend.

See if there is a local Apostolic church you can attend if you want to see revival.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Amanah

We saw 50 people receive the Holy Ghost at FPC this past weekend.

See if there is a local Apostolic church you can attend if you want to see revival.

Could you send me a link to your church via private message? It sounds like a great church. You've peeked my curiosity. lol

[Amanah]

I'm starting to think women had uncut hair and were veiled

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by rdp

*If sentence diagramming the originally-inspired languages of the Bible does not "help no one," they are beyond help. Silly.

*I have already provided a link on this thread several times, but, here she goes one more time:

https://apostolicacademics.com/2016/...from-i-cor-11/

(*Note: In the near future there will be many articles on this blog concerning outward holiness apologetics-exegesis from the biblical data itself.)

*This article is replete w. lexical quotes from the most authoritative Greek resources available. Will also point out that the verb translated "have long hair" in v. 15 (κομᾷ) is a present tense *ACTIVE* voice verb - denoting on-going action.

*That is, the aspect (known as aktionsart) of this parsing of the verb in this text denotes a woman's hair is "actively" growing long (http://biblehub.com/text/1_corinthians/11-15.htm).

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by rdp

*If sentence diagramming the originally-inspired languages of the Bible does not "help no one," they are beyond help. Silly.

*I have already provided a link on this thread several times, but, here she goes one more time:

https://apostolicacademics.com/2016/...from-i-cor-11/

(*Note: In the near future there will be many articles on this blog concerning outward holiness apologetics-exegesis from the biblical data itself.)

*This article is replete w. lexical quotes from the most authoritative Greek resources available. Will also point out that the verb translated "have long hair" in v. 15 (κομᾷ) is a present tense *ACTIVE* voice verb - denoting on-going action.

*That is, the aspect (known as aktionsart) of this parsing of the verb in this text denotes a woman's hair is "actively" growing long (http://biblehub.com/text/1_corinthians/11-15.htm).

So only uncut hair is actively having growing long hair? Wouldn't that mean a man with trimmed hair to his buttocks would not have long hair?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

So only uncut hair is actively having growing long hair? Wouldn't that mean a man with trimmed hair to his buttocks would not have long hair?

Bingo.

[Aquila]

Since there are no exact measurements for what is long vs. what is short given, we must move from thinking in such paradigms. Long hair being shameful on a man, but a glorious crown of beauty upon a woman is drawing a comparison. Long hair in this context is considered an effeminate thing. Therefore, long effeminate hair is shameful on a man. A woman who has had her hair shorn (having her locks hacked short), or shaven, is a humiliation. The long, curly, effeminate hairstyles of Hellenist men were obviously shameful.

It's more about men looking like men, and women looking like women.

[Amanah]

I'm not disputing uncut hair, but I thought it interested that the early church promoted veiling.


Christian head covering was unanimously practiced by the women of the Early Church. This was attested by multiple writers throughout the first centuries of Christianity. The early Christian writer Tertullian (150–220) explains that in his day, the Corinthian church was still practicing head covering. This is only 150 years after the Apostle Paul wrote 1 Corinthians. He said, “So, too, did the Corinthians themselves understand [Paul]. In fact, at this day the Corinthians do veil their virgins. What the apostles taught, their disciples approve.”[6] Clement of Alexandria (150–215), an early theologian, wrote, “Woman and man are to go to church decently attired...for this is the wish of the Word, since it is becoming for her to pray veiled.”[7] Another theologian, Hippolytus of Rome (170–236) while giving instructions for church gatherings said "...let all the women have their heads covered with an opaque cloth..."[8] “Early church history bears witness that in Rome, Antioch, and Africa the custom [of wearing the head covering] became the norm [for the Church].”[9]
Later, in the 4th century, the church leader John Chrysostom (347–407) stated, “…the business of whether to cover one’s head was legislated by nature (see 1 Cor 11:14–15). When I say “nature,” I mean “God.” For he is the one who created nature. Take note, therefore, what great harm comes from overturning these boundaries! And don’t tell me that this is a small sin.”[10] Jerome (347–420) noted that Christian women in Egypt and Syria do not “go about with heads uncovered in defiance of the apostle’s command, for they wear a close-fitting cap and a veil.”[11] Augustine of Hippo (354–430) writes, "It is not becoming, even in married women, to uncover their hair, since the apostle commands women to keep their heads covered."[12] Early Christian art also confirms that women wore headcoverings during this time period.[13]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_headcovering

[Amanah]

early Christian art showing women veiled

http://www.ephrataministries.org/book-veiled5.a5w