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08-11-2007, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Rico
Brother, people will say and do anything to not pay their tithes, even if that means making a liar out of the word of God. I am sure you know this by now, though. 
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Well this people you are talking about is me.
I am a person that is seeking truth.
Tithes as you claim and teach as a command or law is not bible.
Too many people claiming truth; when truth is mixed with traditions and man made order.
Jesus completed the law on the cross Thur death and resurrection.
And I am sure there are many other things that were law that he specifically did not perform.
Wake up and smell the truth. All that is taught by Apostolic is not bible truth. Period.
And you your self know that Rico.
Give me a brake;I am trying to say God is a lier to get out of paying tithes.
What is wrong with you man?
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08-11-2007, 03:24 PM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Originally Posted by COOPER
Well this people you are talking about is me.
I am a person that is seeking truth.
Tithes as you claim and teach as a command or law is not bible.
Too many people claiming truth; when truth is mixed with traditions and man made order.
Jesus completed the law on the cross Thur death and resurrection.
And I am sure there are many other things that were law that he specifically did not perform.
Wake up and smell the truth. All that is taught by Apostolic is not bible truth. Period.
And you your self know that Rico.
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Coop, I've said it before and will say it again: tithing is an excellent principle and a practice God will honor, as He has done in the past. When He walked this earth, Jesus fulfilled ALL of the law. That means he tithed, just like everyone else. Why would He need to reteach an already established practice? People like you aren't interested in the truth, in my opinion. All you are interested in is tearing down as much of God's church as you can, and that is why you start these kinds of threads.
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08-11-2007, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Rico
Coop, I've said it before and will say it again: tithing is an excellent principle and a practice God will honor, as He has done in the past. When He walked this earth, Jesus fulfilled ALL of the law. That means he tithed, just like everyone else. Why would He need to reteach an already established practice? People like you aren't interested in the truth, in my opinion. All you are interested in is tearing down as much of God's church as you can, and that is why you start these kinds of threads.
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OK Rico, Circumcision was law, Sabbath was Law. Do you still live it?
What if Jesus Tithed, big deal. It's not something required any more now.
Tithes are now more required than Sabbath, circumcision or meat offerings.
The pass over was law, Jesus did it. Do you?
Do you do everything Jesus did? No....you don't.
Whats wrong with you? Why would I be interested in tearing down Gods church?
Are you insane or just an insulter and enjoy tearing down a brother with false accusations?
Brother my brother?
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08-11-2007, 03:40 PM
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Enjoy your sabbath everyone..........or is a law to keep like Tithes?
Signing off.
Cooper
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08-11-2007, 03:58 PM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Originally Posted by COOPER
OK Rico, Circumcision was law, Sabbath was Law. Do you still live it?
What if Jesus Tithed, big deal. It's not something required any more now.
Tithes are now more required than Sabbath, circumcision or meat offerings.
The pass over was law, Jesus did it. Do you?
Do you do everything Jesus did? No....you don't.
Whats wrong with you? Why would I be interested in tearing down Gods church?
Are you insane or just an insulter and enjoy tearing down a brother with false accusations?
Brother my brother?
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Cooper, there is nothing "wrong" with me. The Lord showed me a few weeks back that there are people on this site looking to tear down as much of God's church as they can. The majority of threads they start are against one Church practice or another, all in the guise of "finding truth." I feel like you happen to be one of the people He was talking to me about. Your anti-anything UPC thread starting history marks you as someone I believe is interested in tearing down God's church. If you want to be perceived in a different light then quit starting so many "anti" type of threads. I am distancing myself from people I feel fall into this category. Don't be surprised if I don't respond to many of your posts in the future, seeing as how I have let the cat out of the bag. Take care.
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08-11-2007, 04:07 PM
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Still Figuring It Out.
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Originally Posted by COOPER
Would attend an "apostolic" church that did not require or teach tithing?
What if the Pastor was a wealthy business man and financed it all?
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It would depend on what he did teach.
If he taught a spirit of giving and a spirit of ministry towards people with personal, cheerful and prayerful giving as the hub then yes.
But... if the pastor was a wealthy businessman and financed it all then I hardly see where good teaching about a Bible based spirit of giving would be fostered by his footing of all the bills.
Having a pastor who is a wealthy businessman and is financing all of the work is not conducive to a healthy attitude in the people about giving.
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08-11-2007, 04:08 PM
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Still Figuring It Out.
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Originally Posted by Rico View Post
Coop, I've said it before and will say it again: tithing is an excellent principle and a practice God will honor, as He has done in the past. When He walked this earth, Jesus fulfilled ALL of the law. That means he tithed, just like everyone else. Why would He need to reteach an already established practice? People like you aren't interested in the truth, in my opinion. All you are interested in is tearing down as much of God's church as you can, and that is why you start these kinds of threads.
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Did he stone anyone to death for adultery? (as specified in the law)
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08-11-2007, 05:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by COOPER
Well this people you are talking about is me.
I am a person that is seeking truth.
Tithes as you claim and teach as a command or law is not bible.
Too many people claiming truth; when truth is mixed with traditions and man made order.
Jesus completed the law on the cross Thur death and resurrection.
And I am sure there are many other things that were law that he specifically did not perform.
Wake up and smell the truth. All that is taught by Apostolic is not bible truth. Period.
And you your self know that Rico.
Give me a brake;I am trying to say God is a lier to get out of paying tithes.
What is wrong with you man? 
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Has your great pursuit of truth improved your prayer life?
Your soul-winning efforts?
Your fruit of the Spirit?
If so, it is very difficult to tell by your posts.
The proof of the pudding is in the eating, and the kind you are serving up isn't too appealing.
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"Then answered Amos, and said to Amaziah, I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son; but I was an herdman, and a gatherer of sycomore fruit:
And the LORD took me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel."
--Amos 7:14-15
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08-11-2007, 05:53 PM
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I wouldn't attend any heavy handed church. Preaching tithes is one thing....requiring them is something else altogether. I would attend a church that did not require it. But I think it should be taught as a biblical principle or concept.
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08-12-2007, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker
28 At the end of every three years, bring all the tithes of that year's produce and store it in your towns, 29 so that the Levites (who have no allotment or inheritance of their own) and the aliens, the fatherless and the widows who live in your towns may come and eat and be satisfied, and so that the LORD your God may bless you in all the work of your hands.
So should at the end of every third year should we today give tithes to aliens, fatherless and the widows as well, as the word of God declares?
Have you ever noticed certain scriptures on tithes are never talked about??? 
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