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Old 05-10-2016, 01:32 PM
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Basically, Ted Cruz is holding on to his delegates in order to have some control over their slot's on the party platform and rules committee. They are not planning anything else.

Yes, it will be interesting to see the numbers voting for Trump tonight.

People are trying to play the Supreme Court nominee choice as a reason to vote for Donald. However, our federal courts are already a dumpster fire. This past weekend, Judge Roy Moore was suspended over his gay marriage stance. So, the SCOTUS argument is hogwash.

Not voting for Trump is not a vote for Hillary either. Voting for Trump is voting for Trump, hanging every outrageous slur, insult and classless act around our neck. That is just not going to happen for many of us who stand on principle.


I agree with Cruz keeping delegates and trying to influence the party platform, since Trump has signaled he wants to change it.

Had a friend tell me I'm ruining America by refusing to vote for Trump. I stopped posting on FB because of friends who have become Trumpsters, who became hysterical and began name-calling when I posted about Trump's hiring of the Democrat and George Soros fund worker/donor as campaign finance director.

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Old 05-10-2016, 02:01 PM
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Re: Sen. Ted Cruz Makes It Official

One thing is for sure: this has been an ugly primary season.
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One thing is for sure: this has been an ugly primary season.
Right, and you were a major contributor here on the ugly and over the top stuff.
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Old 05-10-2016, 06:23 PM
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Right, and you were a major contributor here on the ugly and over the top stuff.
Yeah, riiiiiight. You and your buddy are micro pictures of the Cruz 'base' at large - ugly and nasty and demeaning and insulting and reviling to anyone who doesn't worship Saint Ted. I make a point about Cruz, you attack me personally.

What a great 'Christian, conservative, evangelical, right wing' strategy - get nasty and attack every non-Ted supporter. You guys have some kind of pathological animosity to Trump, and you project that hatred onto everyone who isn't on the Cruz bandwagon.

Just like Obama's cult followers.

Too bad you 'conservative Republicans' never spent that much energy attacking Obummer and his garbage policies. If you did we all might have gotten somewhere.

But as it is, the truth has come out: The GOP is not conservative, anti-Obama, anti-Clinton. It's a scam, pretend opposition. It's all about certain cliques of DC insiders and their sycophant wanna-bes, playing the American public for fools, telling them all the right things they want to hear, with no intention of actually doing anything except selling off America piece by piece for some nice bowls of porridge.

Oh well, lots of things becoming clearer this election cycle, in more ways than one.

Republicans for Hillary, indeed.

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Old 05-10-2016, 04:43 PM
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Now, now PO, you weren't exactly the voice of reason, either!
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Yeah, riiiiiight. You and your buddy are micro pictures of the Cruz 'base' at large - ugly and nasty and demeaning and insulting and reviling to anyone who doesn't worship Saint Ted. I make a point about Cruz, you attack me personally.

What a great 'Christian, conservative, evangelical, right wing' strategy - get nasty and attack every non-Ted supporter. You guys have some kind of pathological animosity to Trump, and you project that hatred onto everyone who isn't on the Cruz bandwagon.

Just like Obama's cult followers.

Too bad you 'conservative Republicans' never spent that much energy attacking Obummer and his garbage policies. If you did we all might have gotten somewhere.

But as it is, the truth has come out: The GOP is not conservative, anti-Obama, anti-Clinton. It's a scam, pretend opposition. It's all about certain cliques of DC insiders and their sycophant wanna-bes, playing the American public for fools, telling them all the right things they want to hear, with no intention of actually doing anything except selling off America piece by piece for some nice bowls of porridge.

Oh well, lots of things becoming clearer this election cycle, in more ways than one.

Republicans for Hillary, indeed.

Pot calling the kettle black.

I challenge you to show me any post in which PO has made up something, misled or lied...all of which you have done.

Don't complain about being called out for being dishonest. You don't like it, stop posting dishonest claims.

Case in point your complaint about the lack of criticism against obama. A cursory glance at either PO or my posts would show we have grilled obama PLENTY over the last 8 years, as have other conservatives.

Unfortunately, as you know, establishment Republicans control things in DC. You seem unable or unwilling to separate establishment from conservatives.

The man you constantly libel, Cruz, is one of the few in Congress who have tried to bring conservative change to Congress.

But it's easy for you. You sit back on your high horse, blasting everyone. No one is good enough for you. Because of this, you have little to add to any political debate. You want nasty? Your post above is a perfect example of your hypocrisy.

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Pot calling the kettle black.

I challenge you to show me any post in which PO has made up something, misled or lied...all of which you have done.

Don't complain about being called out for being dishonest. You don't like it, stop posting dishonest claims.

Case in point your complaint about the lack of criticism against obama. A cursory glance at either PO or my posts would show we have grilled obama PLENTY over the last 8 years, as have other conservatives.

Unfortunately, as you know, establishment Republicans control things in DC. You seem unable or unwilling to separate establishment from conservatives.

The man you constantly libel, Cruz, is one of the few in Congress who have tried to bring conservative change to Congress.

But it's easy for you. You sit back on your high horse, blasting everyone. No one is good enough for you. Because of this, you have little to add to any political debate. You want nasty? Your post above is a perfect example of your hypocrisy.

What do you think your doing???

You are acting like someone discussing eschatology!

Can't we all get along?

Weren't you told when you were young not to discuss religion and politics?

Or was it, not to discuss politics while you are in a religion?
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What do you think your doing???
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ndavid, I didn't say anything about lack of CRITICISM of Obama on YOUR part here on AFF. I was talking about lack of energy in opposing Obumbo on the part of the "conservative" political sphere, compared to its high energy "kill the blasphemers against TRUE CONSERVATISM (tm)" of the neverTrump cultus.

You aren't even reading what's being written.

Oh, and see? I say something about Cruz, you attack ME personally.

Cruz is a fake. I've proven it. You can't accept your Golden Child isn't what the sales pitch said he was. Too bad.

DC establishment vs conservative es: What has called itself "conservative" isn't, its a scam. More Golden Child syndrome on your part.

Not once have I been dishonest. Just because I point out your Dear Leader's campaign shtick isn't quite truthful doesn't make me dishonest.
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ndavid, I didn't say anything about lack of CRITICISM of Obama on YOUR part here on AFF. I was talking about lack of energy in opposing Obumbo on the part of the "conservative" political sphere, compared to its high energy "kill the blasphemers against TRUE CONSERVATISM (tm)" of the neverTrump cultus.

You aren't even reading what's being written.

Oh, and see? I say something about Cruz, you attack ME personally.

Cruz is a fake. I've proven it. You can't accept your Golden Child isn't what the sales pitch said he was. Too bad.

DC establishment vs conservative es: What has called itself "conservative" isn't, its a scam. More Golden Child syndrome on your part.

Not once have I been dishonest. Just because I point out your Dear Leader's campaign shtick isn't quite truthful doesn't make me dishonest.
Woefully ill-informed is how I view you.

I don't know how I would classify someone who claims Ted is a Canadian citizenship and when the courts (8 last I counted) ruled he is an American citizen, you hold your banner higher against the truth.

The readers can decide whether you are ill-informed or dishonest. I'll side, for the most part, on woefully ill-informed.

Despite the "Senior" Senators, Governors who had too much pride to admit a Junior Senator was more intelligent, informed and principled than they, MSM, Fox News, Rush, Hannity, Ingraham and Palin being against the most consistent Conservative in the race, he did pretty well.

Aside from Cruz not making the cut, we should be more concerned why these people really hated him so much. I would suspect the crony capitalist money trail he wanted to challenge.

Think about how Cruz risked winning Iowa by pushing against Ethanol subsidies. Look at those that were angry about that - Trump, the Iowa Governor, etc. - the crony capitalists.

You, Originalist, Benincasa and others pushed against a man that you know nothing about. The media framed a false narrative around Ted Cruz from the get go. However, and you can mark it down, the Conservatives aren't going anywhere, despite Trump saying he doesn't need us.

I remain #ForeverCruzCrew

And now you people have been such a huge disappointment, I bid you adieu!
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