Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns

[Monterrey]

Wow!!!!!!!!!

My family went through a situation similar, we are still walking for Jesus!

God is good!

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by TPCmusician

A blatant statement was made that we can't be saved without a pastor....

There is no biblical definition of what a pastor does in the New Testament church except to feed the sheep the Word. So in this context, we need the Word of God to be saved. Yet, most people in this country can read the Word for themselves and the Holy Ghost can teach them and lead them in the path God wants us to travel. It takes dedication and devotion to God to walk that straight and narrow. Not many people are able to walk this road without a pastor. However, that being said, my Bible says that the blood of Christ is what saves me, not a pastor. And I’ve yet met a pastor in my region that followed after Christ in the way Paul followed Christ.

This is a perfect example of the pastorate position being that of a hireling. Jesus said that the hireling careth not for the sheep. It is obvious that the hireling the people of your assembly has been paying to 'oversee' the matters of the church turned into a little dictator instead of one who cares for the sheep. You have some pastors who become abusive to the people who depend upon him to teach the Word of God and yet, he is under the impression that because he is pastor, he may do whatever he pleases. Severance pay goes to people who have a job position and is being let go for a reason beyond his control. Downsizing, breaking of contracts or the elimination of the position are a few of the frequent reasons people must leave their job. I hardly think that a man who violates the very word he is supposed to feed the people deserves any more pay and should be run out on a rail.

These people who are the board in this church...if they are not representing the church and it’s people, then they likewise should be run out on a rail. Anytime you hear talk of financial pay to someone leaving, an attorney should be present to represent the people who are making that payment.

Personally, not one more penny of any money I earned would continue to go into the pocket of people who broke the trust that was placed in them to oversee the matters of the church.

If you can, find a man who espouses what Brother Been Thin King on these forums practices about handling money and the pastorate. It is a very rare person who appreciates the people he teaches.

This is a sickening mess that will reverberate like an earthquake and shake foundation of man's church system around this country.

Run to the solid rock of Jesus Christ and put your faith in Him only. He will help you to heal from this gross betrayal.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

I'm so sorry for you and the rest of the saints in your fellowship, TPCmusician. Praying for you all.

I'm surprised to hear that your former pastor has not confessed his sins to the church body and asked for forgiveness but instead is asking for money.

Ms. Peh,

It really reveals the mindset that they view the church as a business. You would think the embarrassment and shame would be so great they would just slink away but apparently these situations reveal ones true self.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by CC1

We live in a different paradigm so I would have never sat under a pastor like TB anyway but laying aside those differences for a moment I believe your post is exactly how I would feel if I were in your shoes.

For those who think this thread is just idle gossip it will be worth it if just one saint, board member, or pastor reads your post and others and realizes that to protect their church, their pastor, and themselves, they had better have some checks and balances in place.

As President Ronald Reagan once said when asked if he trusted the Soviet Union to keep an arms treaty they had just signed - "trust but verify".

I agree! If this revelation can help just one other church from this type thing happening it's worth it.

My heart just breaks for the innocent people affected by this.

And, TCPMusician, you have a right to be mad and hurt. So glad to hear your focus is on God and your family - we need pastors, but utimately, you are the head of your family reporting directly to God! Praying you and many others!

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by CC1

Ms. Peh,

It really reveals the mindset that they view the church as a business. You would think the embarrassment and shame would be so great they would just slink away but apparently these situations reveal ones true self.

This is the first time I've heard of a church giving the former pastor a year's severance pay when he resigned or was fired! There must be threats of lawsuits or something! Amazing!

[exTPCMusician]

Originally Posted by StillStanding

This is the first time I've heard of a church giving the former pastor a year's severance pay when he resigned or was fired! There must be threats of lawsuits or something! Amazing!

It was verbally promised during an illegally held board meeting and the board was "pushed into it" with the assistant of Dr. JH and Pastor JK - translation: the board had no clue what their position was and had no backbone and when someone said "BOO" loud enough, they jumped and agreed to it. Ultimately, at the end of the day while THEY too circumvent responsibility and merely say "I'm sorry" I don't think they quite understand the legal and financial hole they too helped dig the church into. My tithes and offerings are going into a savings account until we find a church home. I do not intend to support man's agenda and the false pretense that we were "reaching the city". Nope. We were lining TB's and TB's family's pockets. I ain't scared to say it!

[Tlswift2009]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

There is no biblical definition of what a pastor does in the New Testament church except to feed the sheep the Word. So in this context, we need the Word of God to be saved. Yet, most people in this country can read the Word for themselves and the Holy Ghost can teach them and lead them in the path God wants us to travel. It takes dedication and devotion to God to walk that straight and narrow. Not many people are able to walk this road without a pastor. However, that being said, my Bible says that the blood of Christ is what saves me, not a pastor. And I’ve yet met a pastor in my region that followed after Christ in the way Paul followed Christ.

This is a perfect example of the pastorate position being that of a hireling. Jesus said that the hireling careth not for the sheep. It is obvious that the hireling the people of your assembly has been paying to 'oversee' the matters of the church turned into a little dictator instead of one who cares for the sheep. You have some pastors who become abusive to the people who depend upon him to teach the Word of God and yet, he is under the impression that because he is pastor, he may do whatever he pleases. Severance pay goes to people who have a job position and is being let go for a reason beyond his control. Downsizing, breaking of contracts or the elimination of the position are a few of the frequent reasons people must leave their job. I hardly think that a man who violates the very word he is supposed to feed the people deserves any more pay and should be run out on a rail.

These people who are the board in this church...if they are not representing the church and it’s people, then they likewise should be run out on a rail. Anytime you hear talk of financial pay to someone leaving, an attorney should be present to represent the people who are making that payment.

Personally, not one more penny of any money I earned would continue to go into the pocket of people who broke the trust that was placed in them to oversee the matters of the church.

If you can, find a man who espouses what Brother Been Thin King on these forums practices about handling money and the pastorate. It is a very rare person who appreciates the people he teaches.

This is a sickening mess that will reverberate like an earthquake and shake foundation of man's church system around this country.

Run to the solid rock of Jesus Christ and put your faith in Him only. He will help you to heal from this gross betrayal.

My friend; even though there are those Pastors that fall into sin; you cannot diminsh God's plan for His church-Jesus told the Apostle Peter to feed His sheep, and how can they {the sheep} hear without a preacher??? So please don't attempt to sideline God's order for His sheep because you're disappointed by what a Pastor(s) have done; it's not for you to change God's order, and a sheep cannot lead itself; it doesn't matter how much you read-fast, and pray: GOD STILL HAVE PASTOR ACCORDING TO HIS HEART THAT WILL FEED WITH KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING-WITHOUT EXCEPTION.

[Tlswift2009]

Originally Posted by CC1

Ms. Peh,

It really reveals the mindset that they view the church as a business. You would think the embarrassment and shame would be so great they would just slink away but apparently these situations reveal ones true self.

A person unwilling to REPENT for sin(s) is a grave concern, and we must pray that those persons will bring forth FRUIT meet for repentance; remember; God had to send the Prophet Nathan to bring King David to repentance-sometimes we need God's loving persuasion to help bring us to repentance..

[Tlswift2009]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

I agree! If this revelation can help just one other church from this type thing happening it's worth it.

My heart just breaks for the innocent people affected by this.

And, TCPMusician, you have a right to be mad and hurt. So glad to hear your focus is on God and your family - we need pastors, but utimately, you are the head of your family reporting directly to God! Praying you and many others!

AMEN!!!! Let God bring total healing to your heart; He can and is able, but we must stay open to God, and it is a time process...

[Tlswift2009]

Originally Posted by TPCmusician

It was verbally promised during an illegally held board meeting and the board was "pushed into it" with the assistant of Dr. JH and Pastor JK - translation: the board had no clue what their position was and had no backbone and when someone said "BOO" loud enough, they jumped and agreed to it. Ultimately, at the end of the day while THEY too circumvent responsibility and merely say "I'm sorry" I don't think they quite understand the legal and financial hole they too helped dig the church into. My tithes and offerings are going into a savings account until we find a church home. I do not intend to support man's agenda and the false pretense that we were "reaching the city". Nope. We were lining TB's and TB's family's pockets. I ain't scared to say it!

Please know that God can use an individual like yourself in His Kingdom Ministry, and He will lead and direct your footsteps...