*** Business Meeting Updates: From the Floor ...

I am soon relocating to Bakersfield

[ThePastorsCoach]

HEY CHRISFITZH20 - ! I remember when you were a little boy!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good to see you on here!!!!!!!!!!!!
God bless you and your family and if you ever get to ATL - come see us!
I still LOVE those mountains!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tell your family I said hello!

[chrisfitzh2o]

Will do!

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by dizzyde

Point of fact, from Foster himself, he did not let his license go or "lose" it over the TV issue. This was from his mouth, so unless he was lying?

I would not call JF a liar. He has been in years past a friend.

I suspect his reasons (and I really don’t know) is he felt restricted. However, today the things that most restricted him are no longer issues. Not TV but philosophy if you will.

He is set to become the next pastor of a very important UPCI church. I would be amazed if he didn’t come back into the UPCI at some point in the next few years.

He is a real talent. And he has a deep passion for soul winning.

[James Griffin]

Originally Posted by bishoph

While I do not have the exact wording in front of me, this resolution allows the District Board to put any minister as well as any ministry "under question" thus making it "illegal" for a UPCI minister to preach for said minister/ministry.

This has the potential of slander. Imagine a pastor of a non-UPCI church that has never been a member and has been doing his own thing for years, and he calls a UPC preacher to preach for him and he finds out he is on some "under question" list, without being notified and given the judicial right to defend himself.

Lawsuits could be filed but as an attorney I believe they would be largely unsuccessful. UPC is a voluntary organization which would make the case pretty weak.

[dizzyde]

Originally Posted by Ferd

I would not call JF a liar. He has been in years past a friend.

I suspect his reasons (and I really don’t know) is he felt restricted. However, today the things that most restricted him are no longer issues. Not TV but philosophy if you will.

He is set to become the next pastor of a very important UPCI church. I would be amazed if he didn’t come back into the UPCI at some point in the next few years.

He is a real talent. And he has a deep passion for soul winning.

I agree, I wasn't trying to be ugly, I have just heard this said several times recently, and have directly heard him say it not to be true. Just wanted to go on record with my info. But yeah, I have a huge admiration for his spirit and his ministry!

[kylady]

Can someone take a moment to "PLEASE POST" here what the EXACT wording of resolution 3 and 4 states for those of us that DO NOT have a total clue it is totally about.. Some of us truly just want to know in full what the whole thing is all about...

[James Griffin]

Originally Posted by James Griffin

Lawsuits could be filed but as an attorney I believe they would be largely unsuccessful. UPC is a voluntary organization which would make the case pretty weak.

Of course I guess an argument could be made that if an organization were to hold itself out to be the sole guardian of salvation and that anyone in disagreement with any of its rules is lost and that not only should such an individual need to be "disfellowshiped" but also fellowshipping with those outside said organization were grounds to be "disfellowshipped" as well, then perhaps membership in said organization is necessary for salvation, thereby making membership mandatory to escape eternal damnation.

Hmmm maybe I need to start preparing some briefs.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Ferd

I would not call JF a liar. He has been in years past a friend.

I suspect his reasons (and I really don’t know) is he felt restricted. However, today the things that most restricted him are no longer issues. Not TV but philosophy if you will.

He is set to become the next pastor of a very important UPCI church. I would be amazed if he didn’t come back into the UPCI at some point in the next few years.

He is a real talent. And he has a deep passion for soul winning.

I think the percnetage of people who leave over philosophical differences and come back is very slim.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by CC1

I think the percnetage of people who leave over philosophical differences and come back is very slim.

How many of them have a prominant UPCI father, that has blessed their ministry and has anointed the leaver as his successor in a prominant OLD UPCI church in a pretty progressive district?

mark it down, JF will be back in.