What does having the Holy Spirit mean?

[Felicity]

Bro Theophilus....

I shall return later and set you straight sir. Hehe. I have no time now.

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Felicity

Bro Theophilus....

I shall return later and set you straight sir. Hehe. I have no time now.

Oh buddy...

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by Barb

Oh buddy...

Originally Posted by Barb

But why do you say this?! Should we not be ready to give a reason or an answer?! Is it a spirit of rebellion or a bad attitude which asks questions or needs scriptural proof?!

I think not...

You misunderstand, it's not that we shouldn't be ready to give an answer to reason. The Bible instructs us to do so. Much more could have been written in greater detail of what took place as even the Word gives witness to.

John 21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.

Even Jesus in his teaching often held back greater detail. Should it surprise us that His Word is no different? He has given what he has given, and what has been given on this topic is plenty, unless you have the attitude that you haven't been told enough times. Perhaps by the very divine inspiration given Luke, the Lord feels that enough is given for those that receive the Word gladly with eyes to see and ears to hear. It's not for the scoffer, the unbeliever, and the faithless. We see that over and over again in Scripture.

Also, a bad spirit or attitude is not in the asking of a question, it's in how it is asked.

If someone is sincerely seeking truth and you exhaustively share the Word on a matter, they look it over and prayerfully receive it.

That's a sharp contrast to the individual that has been shown the Word and still demands evidence with the 'show me' attitude. It is to these that the truth is hidden and this is by divine design.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Sherri

I think you are born again at repentance, if you are sincerely leaving Satan's kingdom and entering into God's kingdom. After your new birth, you are to be baptized in His name and then baptized by His Spirit. But I believe that you are born again when you enter the Kingdom of God.

I believe what I believe because I can find it in the Bible.

We cannot enter the kingdom of God without being born of the water and of the Spirit. I believe these (water and Spirit) are the baptisms.(Acts 2:28) Jesus didn't say when you repent you are born again.

I'm just not understanding the scriptures the way you do. Where can I find being born of water and Spirit happens at repentance. Is it a feeling or is there scripture to agree with what you believe?

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by OGIA

No way Jose'. You should be able to give a CLEAR answer when you're asked.

No hedging, no fudging.

Will a person who has never spoken in tongues i.e. received the Spirit baptism spend eternity in hell?

Yes? No?

I can give a very simple and clear answer when it's asked of me. Even the Baptists do much better at this than many apostolics.

I can give a simple clear answer to your question. If a person hasn't received the Holy Spirit like the disciples in Acts 2 with the evidence of speaking in other tongues, then no, they do not have the Spirit of Christ and they are none of His.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Felicity

That's right sir.

A man with an "argument" is at the mercy of a woman or man with an "experience" that lines up with the Word of God.

I believe my experience lines up with the word of God as well. This is a stalemate.

Originally Posted by mizpeh

I believe my experience lines up with the word of God as well. This is a stalemate.

True, everybody believes that their experience lines up with the Word. Some, and maybe even most folks are right in so far as their experience goes.

The question we all need to ask is:

Does my experience line up with the Word of God completely?

Where have I heard this before?

Originally Posted by Felicity

Bro Theophilus....

I shall return later and set you straight sir. Hehe. I have no time now.

[Sherri]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

I believe what I believe because I can find it in the Bible.

We cannot enter the kingdom of God without being born of the water and of the Spirit. I believe these (water and Spirit) are the baptisms.(Acts 2:28) Jesus didn't say when you repent you are born again.

I'm just not understanding the scriptures the way you do. Where can I find being born of water and Spirit happens at repentance. Is it a feeling or is there scripture to agree with what you believe?

I believe that when Jesus said you must be born of the water AND the Spirit, that He meant spiritual birth, as well as natural birth (Nic only had understood the natural birth--of the water). Where does the Bible say being born again means speaking in tongues?