Major Split in the MS District UPC?

[lovinglife]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

People tend to form groups...cliques...whether we are in some said organization or not.
For example those that don´t do Christmas tend to form their cliques so they can preach against the pagan Apostolic´s across town...
Those that don´t go to the passion plays or Disney tend to form their own little cliques even within an organization..You know the more holy than thou feeling some people seem to carry on their shoulders.

I say organization is neither good or bad it is what we make it. I say forming new groups are neither good or bad in itself...unity is precious and needed. Sometimes the body must expel...that does not always mean what is expelled is bad...it didn´t fit...wouldn´t work in that place went on to somewhere it would fit and work.

Organization can be an untold blessing such as right now my husband was in a serious wreck if I belonged to an organization they would get me home if I needed to come as it is I do my own "thing” which we feel is the will of God for us. I salute the UPC in their programs for missions…sheaves for Christ, mother memorial etc…I know no other oneness organization that has done so much good…but like everywhere else there is the bad.
Some people who write on this board have had bad experiences with the UPC…others have fond memories so in reading posts we have to usually imagine what the writer is feeling…is he smiling, is he bitter, is he happy…what kind of sense of humor does he have…and on and on…

It is not the will of God that every missionary do as I do...One missionary (UPC) once told me, Sister Alvear, "you are a real Bible missionary…" I do not think not belonging and not having a certain amount of money makes me more spiritual or more holy.

Organization is bad when it ceases to be a servant and becomes a master. Organization is bad if it abuses and teaches us to look down on those of another fold.
Some of the most precious people that have ever lived have been from the UPC some of the greatest noble men and women of God that have graced or pulpits are UPC however it does not stop there. There are other great and noble men that have never held a card…and they too have graced our pulpits.


So we must be careful speaking about any group. We may not approve of someone´s actions but we cannot classify everyone in one big lump.

Maybe more later....since I am not flying until Sunday...I am going to church tonight...

I agree I feel there are both good and bad in every organization and as you know my family came from aci/amf.....then independent and now upci and i liked being in all of those...

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Joseph Miller

Back to the subject at hand, the "Major split in MS", I wish these guys could see how this is going to hurt the cause of revival as long as they are fighting.

There is no fight. Mark and Paul had to split up for awhile.

The UPCI came out of a split from the PAW, and look both organizations are still around and still doing what they feel is correct. AMF, ACI, and others have gone on their way to independent works. No matter how you slice it we are all still one group of Apostolic One God Jesus name people.

Trinitarians, and other So-Called Christian groups all see us in one classification and that is One God Jesus Only.

In Jesus name Only (titles will send you to HELL)

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

[Joseph Miller]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

There is no fight. Mark and Paul had to split up for awhile.

The UPCI came out of a split from the PAW, and look both organizations are still around and still doing what they feel is correct. AMF, ACI, and others have gone on their way to independent works. No matter how you slice it we are all still one group of Apostolic One God Jesus name people.

Trinitarians, and other So-Called Christian groups all see us in one classification and that is One God Jesus Only.

In Jesus name Only (titles will send you to HELL)

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

From everything I am hearing there is fighting in the MS district.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

In Jesus name Only (titles will send you to HELL)

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

According to you or according to Jesus?

Originally Posted by Joseph Miller

From everything I am hearing there is fighting in the MS district.

I dont think anyone will leave that will be a surpise from MS. Afterall, they have an ultra con district superintendant, what more could they want. I do know that a preacher from Booneville who has turned his license in, Odom, and another guy.

They just need to make another BORAT movie! That will create some more unity and get some great pub..

[Joseph Miller]

Originally Posted by Discerner

I dont think anyone will leave that will be a surpise from MS. Afterall, they have an ultra con district superintendant, what more could they want. I do know that a preacher from Booneville who has turned his license in, Odom, and another guy.

They just need to make another BORAT movie! That will create some more unity and get some great pub..

The reference to the Borat movie is not needed. They didn't know that a movie was being filmed.

Who is the preacher from Booneville that turned in his license, Joshlin or Teddlie?

[Joseph Miller]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

In Jesus name Only (titles will send you to HELL)

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

Originally Posted by Walkbyfaith7

According to you or according to Jesus?

If he is referring to FSHG baptism then the word of God backs it up. People who are not baptized in Jesus name are not saved.

Originally Posted by Joseph Miller

If he is referring to FSHG baptism then the word of God backs it up. People who are not baptized in Jesus name are not saved.

So baptism actually saves a person?

So if I am baptized in Jesus name I am heaven bound?
(I have been baptized in Jesus name).

[Just a Shepherd]

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind

You throw all the barbs here and some question your intent in this?????

I'm not throwing barbs, at least not intentionally. Just expressing an opinion.

[Just a Shepherd]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Because your answer may give more weight to your ffirst statement.

I would like to know about the Biblical organization or fellowship that you are with. This is interesting and I would like to learn more about your Biblical fellowship of fresh bread, and fresh anoiting.

People must be swooning and speaking in tongues every time you and your fellow ministers step behind the sacred desk (that's if you use a pulpit).

So, could you tell me are you an apostle, prophet, evangelist, pastor, or teacher?

In Jesus name

Brother "popin fresh bread" Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

I was baptized in a UPC church 24 years ago, have been a licensed UPC minister for 12 years and a pastor for 7.

We don't use a "sacred desk" there is no such thing and to think so is almost idolatry. We use a music stand because we meet in a rented hall and so all our equipment is portable.

No people don't swoon and speak in tongues when I get up to teach, that's foolish to even think that. Jesus is the head of the church and I don't want people to "swoon" over me, how absurd. Teaching and preaching is not a time to impress people with great swelling words for pats on the back. It is a time to decrease so that he can increase. I hope that they swoon in His presence though!

What troubles me is that you want to mock the idea that we should strive for a daily fresh anointing, as if that is some foreign concept to you. What would you prefer, a cold, lifeless prayer room and sermons that a carnal preacher got off some internet site?