Daniel, thanks to distrrict officials who could care less, the AS is a joke.
Guys sign them every year who don't believ half the AoF, and nobody polices or enforces anything.
Don't make me laugh.
That is a strawman.
Please elaborate on the strawman ... you simply asked me my opinions on what I meant by tyranny of of the majority .... did you think I was blasting anyone group? You may not think there are pressures for compliance ....but there is a powerful group dynamic that supercedes what one DS does or doesn't do ...
Tyranny of the majority can effect any faction ... conservative, moderate, liberal ... if it goes unchecked ... all sides do not want to be carried by the tide and as the current system stands either you get with the program or you leave ... diversity is not tolerated. JMO
In the Federalist Papers, men like Madison and Hamilton explored the virtues of a federalist republic and highlighted the dangers of true democracy.
In discussing the concept of the tyranny of the majority, Madison commenced the statement of his theory in Federalist 51 with an acknowledgment that the "have nots" in any society are extremely likely to attack the "haves," for like Hamilton the Virginian believed class struggle to be inseparable from politics.
"It is of great importance in a republic not only to guard against the oppression of its rulers," Madison writes, "but to guard one part of the society against the injustice of the other. Different interests necessarily exist in different classes of citizens. If a majority be united by a common interest the rights of the minority will be insecure."
In a nutshell, this is what I see. As the present system stands, within the fellowship, a simple majority rules -- leaving few protections, checks and balances, for those with a minority view on any side. It demands uniformity yet is inequitable in its enforcement and relentless in policing compliance.
JMO, CS.
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Originally Posted by Coonskinner
Relentless in policing compliance?
Daniel, thanks to distrrict officials who could care less, the AS is a joke.
Guys sign them every year who don't believ half the AoF, and nobody polices or enforces anything.
Don't make me laugh.
That is a strawman.
is it possible to agree with both of these views?
Daniel, this is one of your most thought full posts. the enforment aspect isnt necessarily there but clearly the UPCI has reached a point where factions are contending for that simple majority for the purpose of forcing the entire organization to be clones of one another. BOTH sides are engaged in this conflict and while Coonskinner is right about enforcement at the district level on the Infernal Document, Daniel has hit the nail on the head on what the problem is within membership.
Very thoughtful Daniel.
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Daniel, this is one of your most thought full posts. the enforment aspect isnt necessarily there but clearly the UPCI has reached a point where factions are contending for that simple majority for the purpose of forcing the entire organization to be clones of one another. BOTH sides are engaged in this conflict and while Coonskinner is right about enforcement at the district level on the Infernal Document, Daniel has hit the nail on the head on what the problem is within membership.
Very thoughtful Daniel.
The compliance Ferd comes through a group dynamic .... however this is why I am a strong advocate of examining the structure top to bottom .... there must be some checks and balances built in to balance the tyranny of the majority.
Or else there will be a split ... however, it may be to late to remedy.
The compliance Ferd comes through a group dynamic .... however this is why I am a strong advocate of examining the structure top to bottom .... there must be some checks and balances built in to balance the tyranny of the majority.
Or else there will be a split ... however, it may be to late to remedy.
While, I had not looked at it as "Tyranny of hte majority" per sey, I have been thinking about some of the old sermons ive heard from GC and some of the old guys that have passed.
Papa George preached a sermon in the 70's "He has magnified his Word above His Name" that was a masterpiece. Should be required listening for every preacher in the movement once a year. I suspect there are dozens more just like it from many other great yet gone men.
Daniel, my point here is the CHECK has to be revered men of God that preach at GC who have annointing and can get all sides to put God above idology.
I dont know that we have those kind of men preaching our conferences. I wonder if we have come to the place where the different sides wont even share pew space with each other to hear these kinds of messages together.
this in my honest opinion, is the check and balance. I just dont know if we have this any longer.
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