Men in Womens Bathroom: A Reality now in CO - Page 11

Sam · #1 05-30-2008, 10:30 PM

I prayed with a young man several years ago that was having sexual identity problems. He was leaving for college and was not going to be around this area. I asked him if he was physically a male and he answered in the affirmative. He said he just felt like he was female inside. I realize that some folks can have outward sex organs of one sex and have internal organs of another. Also I realize that some folks have gender identity problems because they have been made to feel like the sex they are is not pleasing to a parent. Like the family that wanted a boy but when a girl was born she was always made to feel like she was a disappointment because she was a girl and the parents wished shee was a boy. He told me that his problem was not because of parental disappointment. He didn't know about his internal organs. All I could do was assure him that God loved him and he had to love himself. I told him that when he went to college to talk to a counselor there and they could find out to a greater degree why he felt like he was really a girl in a boy's body. I don't know what ever happened. He moved away.

Rico · #2 05-30-2008, 09:58 PM

http://web4health.info/en/answers/sex-gender-what.htm

Transgender is a bid broader term than transexual.

Praxeas · #3 05-30-2008, 10:00 PM

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http://web4health.info/en/answers/sex-gender-what.htm

Transgender is a bid broader term than transexual.

Sounds what I just got finished saying

Rico · #4 05-30-2008, 10:12 PM

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Sounds what I just got finished saying

Transexuals are definitely transgendered people. Transgendered people don't always become transexuals. I will concede that I was using the two terms interchangeably. They are strongly connected, but the connection is more of a one way street. I took your comments to mean that both terms apply to completely different groups of people.

Praxeas · #5 05-30-2008, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico

Transexuals are definitely transgendered people. Transgendered people don't always become transexuals. I will concede that I was using the two terms interchangeably. They are strongly connected, but the connection is more of a one way street. I took your comments to mean that both terms apply to completely different groups of people.

No I was saying what you last said that transgender is a broad term that covers transexuals as well

Rico · #6 05-30-2008, 10:19 PM

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No I was saying what you last said that transgender is a broad term that covers transexuals as well

Gotcha.

DanielR · #7 05-30-2008, 10:01 PM

Hmm, in some parts of this world today there are public restrooms with no sex designation, this is very common in some parts of Europe as I understand. (I haven't been over there myself, but have heard it from people that have) I don't mean the unisex one holer either, I'm talking large public restrooms that everybody use. So this is the first step to the elimination of sex desinated restrooms. So from now on the ladies will just have to close the doors on those stalls and the guys will just have to step up to the urinal....wait, we already do that now. I've noticed a trend in some places that beside the sex designated restrooms will be another "family" restroom which is almost as big as the others. It's progressing toward a 1 restroom system for everybody.

Praxeas · #8 05-30-2008, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DanielR

Hmm, in some parts of this world today there are public restrooms with no sex designation, this is very common in some parts of Europe as I understand. (I haven't been over there myself, but have heard it from people that have) I don't mean the unisex one holer either, I'm talking large public restrooms that everybody use. So this is the first step to the elimination of sex desinated restrooms. So from now on the ladies will just have to close the doors on those stalls and the guys will just have to step up to the urinal....wait, we already do that now. I've noticed a trend in some places that beside the sex designated restrooms will be another "family" restroom which is almost as big as the others. It's progressing toward a 1 restroom system for everybody.

I wonder if voyeurism will be made illegal in them restrooms or if exhibitionism will be made illegal....

bkstokes · #9 05-30-2008, 10:45 PM

Jim

I was reading in one of my church history books today about John Wimden (sp?) -- Vineyard founder -- teaching a class a Fuller Theological Seminary and practicing the gifts in the class. Did you ever hear him preach personally and what was your impression?

Sam · #10 05-30-2008, 11:18 PM

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Jim

I was reading in one of my church history books today about John Wimden (sp?) -- Vineyard founder -- teaching a class a Fuller Theological Seminary and practicing the gifts in the class. Did you ever hear him preach personally and what was your impression?

I never saw John Wimber in person.
Years ago I saw a VHS recording of him giving his testimony.
He was quite a guy. The copy I saw was borrowed. I'd like to get one of my own some time. He did believe in the gifts of the Spirit and from what I understand, some were manifest in his life. The pastor who founded the Vineyard where I went from 1992 until 2006 was mentored by him at the California (I think it was Anaheim) Vineyard. Steve Sjogren came to Cincinnati in the nineteen eighties and began a Vineyard in an apartment with another couple. The Cincinnati/Springdale Vineyard has grown to several thousand on a weekend and there are about 20 or so Vineyards in this area of Ohio that were launched from this one. In some cases, this Vineyard has paid pastor's salaries and given away many, many members to get other Vineyards going. Steve Sjogren has recently move to Florida to plant a Vineyard there. That church web site is
http://outflowchurches.com/coastlandtampa/