STUNNING! UPC pastors says" NO more Blood Songs!

[StMark]

I recently talked to a leader in another church who was upset over the pastor's decision. The pastor met with the Min. of Music , musicians and praise singers and told them there would be No more songs about the Blood!

His reasoning was that it scares today's visitors who have no church background.


What do you think about this ? I think this would upset me too

[Sherri]

Originally Posted by StMark

I recently talked to a leader in another church who was upset over the pastor's decision. The pastor met with the Min. of Music , musicians and praise singers and told them there would be No more songs about the Blood!

His reasoning was that it scares today's visitors who have no church background.


What do you think about this ? I think this would upset me too

That would weird me out totally. Thank God for the blood!!! I hope we never get too sophisticated to sing about it.

[StMark]

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This Pastor went on to say that they were not allowed to perform the following:


1. From now on he only wanted "hill song" style. No gospel

2. They could not sing anymore slow songs for the worship service. only upbeat.


3. Absolutley NO More Hymns could be sung.


I'm not making this up. we came to the conclusion he probably went to one of those mega church growth seminars and came home and decided he would impliment their ways of doing things.

Needless to say, he has a lot of upset leaders as a result. I think some pastors are blaming the wrong things for the reasons for not growing


what says you??/

[Encryptus]

Originally Posted by StMark

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This Pastor went on to say that they were not allowed to perform the following:


1. From now on he only wanted "hill song" style. No gospel

2. They could not sing anymore slow songs for the worship service. only upbeat.


3. Absolutley NO More Hymns could be sung.


I'm not making this up. we came to the conclusion he probably went to one of those mega church growth seminars and came home and decided he would impliment their ways of doing things.

Needless to say, he has a lot of upset leaders as a result. I think some pastors are blaming the wrong things for the reasons for not growing


what says you??/

Sounds like he graduated from Lakewood School of Music.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by StMark

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This Pastor went on to say that they were not allowed to perform the following:


1. From now on he only wanted "hill song" style. No gospel

2. They could not sing anymore slow songs for the worship service. only upbeat.


3. Absolutley NO More Hymns could be sung.


I'm not making this up. we came to the conclusion he probably went to one of those mega church growth seminars and came home and decided he would impliment their ways of doing things.

Needless to say, he has a lot of upset leaders as a result. I think some pastors are blaming the wrong things for the reasons for not growing


what says you??/

So this makes it seem Hillsong does not sing about the cross and the blood of Jesus. Now Mark you may not be aware that what you posted is not true. Now you know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR4CC...eature=related

[George]

[QUOTE=Michael The Disciple;479444]So this makes it seem Hillsong does not sing about the cross and the blood of Jesus. Now Mark you may not be aware that what you posted is not true. Now you know.

You should read what St. Mark said before you accuse him of not telling the truth. He said the pastor that didn't want any songs about the "blood" also said:
1. From now on he only wanted "hill song" style. No gospel

Did you catch the word "style?" He didn't say Hillsongs deleted the cross or the blood. He referred to their style of music.

[StMark]

[QUOTE=George;479477]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

So this makes it seem Hillsong does not sing about the cross and the blood of Jesus. Now Mark you may not be aware that what you posted is not true. Now you know.

You should read what St. Mark said before you accuse him of not telling the truth. He said the pastor that didn't want any songs about the "blood" also said:
1. From now on he only wanted "hill song" style. No gospel

Did you catch the word "style?" He didn't say Hillsongs deleted the cross or the blood. He referred to their style of music.

YOU GO GEORGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

TELL 'EM ! ! ! ! ! ! !! ! ! ! !! !! ! ! !







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[Michael The Disciple]

[QUOTE=George;479477]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

So this makes it seem Hillsong does not sing about the cross and the blood of Jesus. Now Mark you may not be aware that what you posted is not true. Now you know.

You should read what St. Mark said before you accuse him of not telling the truth. He said the pastor that didn't want any songs about the "blood" also said:
1. From now on he only wanted "hill song" style. No gospel

Did you catch the word "style?" He didn't say Hillsongs deleted the cross or the blood. He referred to their style of music.

I will use this as an example. If someone said for instance "We dont want the David Bernard STYLE of preaching." Then the next thing said would be they did not want any preaching about the blood of Christ. It would be clear they were connecting the two together. DB and not preaching the blood. Same thing was done to Hillsong.

Mark went on on say:

1. From now on he only wanted "hill song" style. No gospel

2. They could not sing anymore slow songs for the worship service. only upbeat.


3. Absolutley NO More Hymns could be sung.

If by gospel we mean that Christ died for our sins and rose again if it were Mark or whoever said this was totally wrong. Whoever it was that insinuates Hillsong does not do slow songs was totally wrong. Whoever it was that surmises that Hillsong does not sing hymns was totally wrong. Just click on the Youtubes and you will see.

Matter of fact SOMEONE whether it be Mark or that Pastor very plainy said the Hillsong STYLE is NO GOSPEL.

I am just pointing out the error of these statements with visual proof. Now if this UPC Pastor wants to get rid of slow songs about the blood of Jesus thats entirely up to him and the people that attend there.

Just dont try to bring Hillsong down to that level because it is not true.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by StMark

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This Pastor went on to say that they were not allowed to perform the following:


1. From now on he only wanted "hill song" style. No gospel

2. They could not sing anymore slow songs for the worship service. only upbeat.


3. Absolutley NO More Hymns could be sung.


I'm not making this up. we came to the conclusion he probably went to one of those mega church growth seminars and came home and decided he would impliment their ways of doing things.

Needless to say, he has a lot of upset leaders as a result. I think some pastors are blaming the wrong things for the reasons for not growing


what says you??/

By and large the church has become a business focused on maintaining assets and salaries for the men involved.

Also we're living in very wicked times.

Matthew 24:12
And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

People are bombarded by so much sin in today's world their vision has become too clouded to see clearly and they're growing cold.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by StMark

I recently talked to a leader in another church who was upset over the pastor's decision. The pastor met with the Min. of Music , musicians and praise singers and told them there would be No more songs about the Blood!

His reasoning was that it scares today's visitors who have no church background.


What do you think about this ? I think this would upset me too

Even my Baptiscostal mega exUPC lib church makes a point to talk about how we do still sing about the blood and the importance of the blood of Jesus so I am very surprised to see a UPC church take this tact.

I do think it helps to explain the lyrics of these songs if you see visitors who might have no church background.

I also think it makes sense to not sing old songs whose meaning is no longer relevent like "Jesus on the mainline". 98% of people today don't have a clue about old time telephone exchanges and what a mainline is. The common thought of a mainline today has to do with heroin consumption!