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08-06-2008, 10:35 AM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
If a man looks at a woman and lusts after her, he has committed adultery in his heart. Anybody guilty here guys?
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08-06-2008, 10:37 AM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
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Originally Posted by ILG
If a man looks at a woman and lusts after her, he has committed adultery in his heart. Anybody guilty here guys?
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Its generally thought Jesus is talking about a man lusting after a married woman.
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08-06-2008, 10:35 AM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
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if you follow the chain of logic a man can have multiple wifes and be ok in gods sight if you go strictly by scripture.
if a man sends away his wife and she remarries she is in adultry.
but a if a man can have multiple wifes and he is still married in Gods eyes to the woman he divorced legally and he remarries another woman he is ok because he can have multiple wifes and not be in sin if you go 100% by the scriptures.
i threw that in there after thinking about this discussion for a hour or so last night and doing about 2 hours of research in the scripture and in history as far as biblical polygamy, divorce and sexual laws go.
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You need to research that more, that is not true for every situation.
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08-06-2008, 10:36 AM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
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You need to research that more, that is not true for every situation.
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Yeah, I disagree with that too, but I need to go cook lunch.
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08-06-2008, 10:38 AM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
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You need to research that more, that is not true for every situation.
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as always im a open to scriptural based correction... if you can figgure out a way to work around the old testament.
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08-06-2008, 10:51 AM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
im not twisting, i just let the scripture speak for itself.
the word in the King James is "lust" but "covet" is a better translation. You can only covet something if it belongs to someone else. In this case a married woman.
Heres a good website that addresses this.
http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/women_sin.html
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08-06-2008, 10:56 AM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
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im not twisting, i just let the scripture speak for itself.
the word in the King James is "lust" but "covet" is a better translation. You can only covet something if it belongs to someone else. In this case a married woman.
Heres a good website that addresses this.
http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/women_sin.html
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So, do you check the ring finger before you lust? When guys look at porn can they say "It's good thing these women don't have a wedding ring on?" Come on, where is there any respect for women here? Or do you think that women being looked at as property is biblical?
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08-06-2008, 11:08 AM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
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Originally Posted by ILG
So, do you check the ring finger before you lust? When guys look at porn can they say "It's good thing these women don't have a wedding ring on?" Come on, where is there any respect for women here? Or do you think that women being looked at as property is biblical?
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What we are discussing is different than fornication. You threw a blanket statement to condemn the men for "lusting" after another woman, and i threw back a valid alternative translation of that verse that changes its intent to be more in line with the rest of the body of scripture.
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08-06-2008, 11:01 AM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
i'm just sola scriptura sister
i have a high respect for women, i obey the laws of our land, and i understand that in todays "real world" things are different than 20 centuries ago when christ was crucified.
but if you are gonna say its right or wrong you gotta stick with the ultimate and only 'standard' and thats the accepted cannon of scripture that we use and then interpreting it according to its original language, intent, and the history surrounding it in each time period as we are able to discern from secondary historical accounts and archeology.
and the role of women was far far different in that society that it is today. as to the question of women having a type of property status in scriptures... well... what do you think?
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08-06-2008, 11:02 AM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
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i'm just sola scriptura sister
i have a high respect for women, i obey the laws of our land, and i understand that in todays "real world" things are different than 20 centuries ago when christ was crucified.
but if you are gonna say its right or wrong you gotta stick with the ultimate and only 'standard' and thats the accepted cannon of scripture that we use and then interpreting it according to its original language, intent, and the history surrounding it in each time period as we are able to discern from secondary historical accounts and archeology.
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Or your interpretation thereof. Don't forget that your view is merely an interpretation. Simply because you think it doesn't make it gospel truth.
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