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Old 04-28-2007, 03:59 PM
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and now you're chiming in on the mockery??
agreeing with the putdowns ! !

HELP!
LOL!! No mockery, son...just the truth. There are excesses in everything in life and the Church is no different.

That doesn't mean it's everywhere, but we cannot deny that what CC1 said is true...
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Old 04-28-2007, 05:07 PM
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and now you're chiming in on the mockery??
agreeing with the putdowns ! !

HELP!
Thad,

As Barb and Jeannie have tried to point out to you it is not mockery to make an observation or constructive criticism.

You tend to take anything critical to the extreme.

My only hope is that there are some people out there (especially preachers) who have maybe been so immeresed in the old time Pentecostal culture they have never really thought about these things and my posts might spark some introspection.

Some preaches would do well to learn to preach for results and not so much an immediate response. I have sat in services where the preacher was so concerned about getting a reaction out of the crowd he got sidetracked into cheerleading at the expense of a coherent sermon that could help folks.
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Old 04-28-2007, 03:59 PM
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We do go overboard sometimes, don't we?! Tis true...
there is some thought that our reactions are out of habit and really not because we are truly "getting it".

Everyone else says amen, we say amen-- other people shout we shout. Is it a learned behavior? --I wonder sometimes.
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Old 04-28-2007, 04:03 PM
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there is some thought that our reactions are out of habit and really not because we are truly "getting it".

Everyone else says amen, we say amen-- other people shout we shout. Is it a learned behavior? --I wonder sometimes.

we can turn that around and say there are those that go churches were they DO get it but are not ANY expression whatsoever. the "learned behavoir in this case is quiet sophistication. Is pride also a learned behavior? I believe there is form of GOOD learned behavior
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Old 04-28-2007, 03:47 PM
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Finally I have a few minutes to share my thoughts about the UPC conference held at Peoples Church the last few days. I want to say right up front that it was a timely convergence of the need for the UPC to have a suitable facility for this conference with Bro. Mark Foster and Bro. Dillon and the need for spiritual guidance on our part. I am convinced that this was not happenstance, but ordered of God for our benefit. Felicity and I both rejoice concerning confirmation received on direction related issues in our lives.

I felt right at home in these services and enjoyed immensely the preaching of both Bro. Foster (the appetizer), and Bro. Dillon (the entre). My soul was hungry for what was served and my spiritual appetite sufficiently sufficed. I also enjoyed the worship.

I am always amazed at how God can set up His divine appointments in the most unpredictable manner. It had been so long since I had attended a UPC function and I did not know what to expect. I was overwhelmed by the warm reception we received from everyone. After 10 years of being away from the UPC, it was nice to actually feel so comfortable in one of their services.

I have concluded that God is definitely still speaking to the UPC constituency. However, it seems that in order to do so He has to scream at them.

Is this what the Bible refers to when it speaks of those who are dull of hearing? I honestly believe I could have heard what God had to say at about 30 decibels less volume!

Both Bro. Dillon and Bro. Foster have invited us to attend their conferences in August, so who knows, we just might do that! We certainly felt a connection has been made between us.
Elder, I am thrilled beyond what these few words can express for what God is doing for you, your family, and your church.

Some may see your heartfelt gratitude for God's blessing as a 'sign' you may return to the 'Mother Ship', and who knows?! But regardless of that, the most important thing to thank God for here is the direction you received and the hunger that was satisfied.

No matter what you do, my sincere prayers are with you both...

A side note: you mentioned "divine appointments" and have no idea that the title of the book I am working on is 'Recognizing God's Divine Arrangements' and one of the chapters is 'Divine Appointments'.

That isn't relevant to anything, but I thought it interesting...
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Old 04-28-2007, 03:49 PM
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Elder, I am thrilled beyond what these few words can express for what God is doing for you, your family, and your church.

Some may see your heartfelt gratitude for God's blessing as a 'sign' you may return to the 'Mother Ship', and who knows?! But regardless of that, the most important thing to thank God for here is the direction you received and the hunger that was satisfied.

No matter what you do, my sincere prayers are with you both...

A side note: you mentioned "divine appointments" and have no idea that the title of the book I am working on is 'Recognizing God's Divine Arrangements' and one of the chapters is 'Divine Appointments'.

That isn't relevant to anything, but I thought it interesting...
Amen. I could not have said it better.
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Old 04-28-2007, 03:51 PM
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Amen. I could not have said it better.

well what's your feelings on it Ron ??
Do you WANT them to return to the UPC? be honest.
Do you feel they are looking this way ??
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Actually, I thought you has asked that questoin of Felicity, not TB.

I have always got the feeling Felicity is a lot more nostalgic for the UPC than TB.
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I am reminded of a story I recently heard.

A minister was going to pray for a backslidden evangelist who just recently gave his heart back to God.

When the minister started to pray the man started to jerk and heive- and minister stopped the man and said--"quit it, that is a learned behavior" he stopped jerking and looked at the minister and said "you know what, you are right"
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Old 04-28-2007, 04:14 PM
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I am reminded of a story I recently heard.

A minister was going to pray for a backslidden evangelist who just recently gave his heart back to God.

When the minister started to pray the man started to jerk and heive- and minister stopped the man and said--"quit it, that is a learned behavior" he stopped jerking and looked at the minister and said "you know what, you are right"
Yes ma'am...
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