SG: Ultra con darling?

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

May I speak once again? Please note I only looked over what was said from when I quit posting. It would seem to me that someone is trying to hint that UC`s have deep rooted sexual sins. I do not think you can put sins like that in any category. Among all people of all classes sins occur... ...

You are absolutely correct, Mama A.

Divorce, marital infidelity, teen pregnancy and all of the other social "indicators" of "sin" appear with the same frequency within "ultra-con" circles as they do with the rest of society.

This does beg the question, however; why don't the "dress codes" and other standards help keep the "ultra-cons" more holy than the rest of society?

Also, something that has bothered me for years, why don't the "ultra-cons" do anything to alleviate the suffering of innocent victims or to mitigate the impact that these things have on the lives of the people? Instead of reaching out and trying to help the innocent, they usually just throw the innocent away like rubbish along with the perps.

**** And none of this has anything to do with the opening post and the good man who was named there. This is just to follow the "hijack" that the thread's creator had done to his own thread.

[*AQuietPlace*]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

The issue of children is what convinced me the most to get away from all that.

I think that is what causes a lot of people to stop and start really thinking about things.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

The issue of children is what convinced me the most to get away from all that.

That is when we made our decision.

[DAII]

Originally Posted by pelathais

You are absolutely correct, Mama A.

Divorce, marital infidelity, teen pregnancy and all of the other social "indicators" of "sin" appear with the same frequency within "ultra-con" circles as they do with the rest of society.

This does beg the question, however; why don't the "dress codes" and other standards help keep the "ultra-cons" more holy than the rest of society?

Agreed ....

They are supposed to be fences .... sometimes fences for the fences.... but apparently those who obsess over slits and skirt length would be better served gouging their own eyes.

[Sister Alvear]

Time teaches us a lot of things....observe the message and you will know what is going on in the heart of the preacher...if it is over and over on the same thing...BEWARE....

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Time teaches us a lot of things....observe the message and you will know what is going on in the heart of the preacher...if it is over and over on the same thing...BEWARE....

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Sherri

Standards were always preached at least one night of camp when I was a kid. I'm sure it's still expected - to keep everyone in line for another year. Nothing wrong with it, I guess. If you belong to the UPC, you kind of expect it. We went to camp, but at home we lived by whatever our pastor taught (which varied with each successive pastor).

I wouldn't want to go to a camp NOW where this stuff was preached, since I've been away from UPC for 19 years. But I would have gone when I was in, and would have expected this type of preaching at some point.

I guess every camp is different, depending on the region. As I said earlier, it was NOT the norm when I was growing up.

It's amazing to me, since coming to forums lo these many years ago, to find out just how different things were and are.

The dichotomy of Pentecost is bind boggling at times...

[DividedThigh]

bottom line, holiness has to be in the heart, and is revealed in passion for god and right, not in the hemline or the short or britches, lol

[Rose]

Rev Scott Graham preached an awesome sermon last night at LA District Camp Meeting... "Finding Philip".

[Sister Alvear]

wow...sounds awesome....