Reaching tentacles of the Social Justice movement

[coadie]

The culture is moving us to enforce social justice. How much do conservative Christians know about the various forms of the movement?

Formerly the Special Adviser for Green Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation at the White House Council on Environmental Quality, Van Jones is a long time self-proclaimed communist. His endeavor was to halt the consumption of energy by prosperous folks and taxing it to send money to the have nots. He wanted to use the environmental movement to pressure the social justice agenda.

Glenn Beck exposes it.

According to Psalm 89.14: “Righteousness and justice are the foundation of your throne; love and faithfulness go before you.” But Fox News pundit Glenn Beck recently implored his viewers to leave their congregations if their churches champion social or economic justice, adding that the terms are nefarious code words.

“I’m begging you .. your right to religion and freedom to exercise religion and read all of the passages of the Bible as you want to read them and as your church wants to preach them are going to come under the ropes here in probably the next year,” Beck said. “I beg you look for the words social justice or economic justice on your church web site. If you find it, run as fast as you can. Social justice and economic justice, they are code words.”

He noted later on his television show that Communists and Nazis also flew the flag of social justice.

Of course the liberals on this site despise Glenn Beck because he exposes a lot of pretention.

Social and economic justice are not charity.

Rick Warren says we need to promote social justice to be more relevant. His seeker friendly model uses social justice to attract audience.

Social justice is behiind socialized medicine. Social justice thinking is behind the calling out people that oppose Mosques certain places and gay marriage as people being bigots or racist.

The scripture has great coverage of charity.

Who is behind this movement? How does it fit into the endtimes?

[vrblackwell]

Social justice is a code word which means take from those who have worked hard and give it to those who are unwilling to work hard.

[commonsense]

Originally Posted by vrblackwell

Social justice is a code word which means take from those who have worked hard and give it to those who are unwilling to work hard.

I agree.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by vrblackwell

Social justice is a code word which means take from those who have worked hard and give it to those who are unwilling to work hard.

Kinda the opposite of the scriptures?

Now when he saw the crowds, he went up on a mountainside and sat down. His disciples came to Him, 2and He began to teach them, saying:

3Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

4Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted.

5Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.

6Blessed are those who hunger and thirst after righteousness,

for they will be filled.

7Blessed are the merciful, for they shall be shown mercy.

8Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God.

9Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called the sons of God.

10Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

11Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

Social justice makes a lot of demands.

[kindofbelieve]

Social Justice is slavery with religious garments on. Any charity that is forced is not charity but slavery -- or theft. Take your pick. But what do you expect from a group of people who want to help people with other people's money?

I have no problem helping my fellow man. I do it often. I have a problem with some idiot with utopian stars in his/her eyes using a gun to steal my money and give it to someone else... after taking an 80% cut, of course.

[kindofbelieve]

For the record, that also includes stealing my money to help others obtain democracy, or obtain foreign oil, or any other form of government intervention.

[Maximilian]

Originally Posted by kindofbelieve

For the record, that also includes stealing my money to help others obtain democracy, or obtain foreign oil, or any other form of government intervention.

It's not stealing if it's a Democracy. An unpopular policy can be appealed. An unpopular idea can be vetoed by those representatives you and I voted for. Is it truly "stealing?"

[Maximilian]

Originally Posted by kindofbelieve

Social Justice is slavery with religious garments on. Any charity that is forced is not charity but slavery -- or theft. Take your pick. But what do you expect from a group of people who want to help people with other people's money?

I have no problem helping my fellow man. I do it often. I have a problem with some idiot with utopian stars in his/her eyes using a gun to steal my money and give it to someone else... after taking an 80% cut, of course.

Politically, I agree. So maybe we need to clarify if this is about politics or social justice? They sometimes meet in the street, but they are polar opposites.

The way a collective nation takes care of its disenfranchised, poor and minorities is important. If there's a voice for the Amos' of our day, it's to support policies that both make good sense, and are the best for making sure the powerful don't trample over the powerless.

Again, the judgement of God against Israel was constantly over this issue. Even the "sins of Sodom!"

[vrblackwell]

Originally Posted by coadie

Kinda the opposite of the scriptures?

Now when he saw the crowds, he went up on a mountainside and sat down. His disciples came to Him, 2and He began to teach them, saying:

3Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

4Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted.

5Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.

6Blessed are those who hunger and thirst after righteousness,

for they will be filled.

7Blessed are the merciful, for they shall be shown mercy.

8Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God.

9Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called the sons of God.

10Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

11Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

Social justice makes a lot of demands.

That is a gross misapplication of scripture. Nowhere in those verses do I find Jesus saying that we should steal from those who have worked hard to support the lazy and irresponsible.

Of course we are to show charity to the elderly, the weak, the handicapped, and even those are are simply going through hard times. But know where in scripture will you find that we should support those who are lazy and those who have been irresponsible.

In Matthew 25 Jesus gave talents to three different men, and by liberal standards he was not fair about it. He gave some more then the others. He ended up taking the one from the irresponsible man and gave it to the responsible man. Mean old Jesus left that man with nothing.

And you will never find in scripture Jesus supporting anyone being forced to be charitable. That would be stealing.

The term "social justice" has taken on a new meaning than what it once had. The liberal democrats have stolen the term and now it simply means stealing from those who have worked hard and give it to the lazy and irresponsible so they will show up on election day and vote for them.

This is destroying America and creating a country of lazy idiots who thinks the party will last forever. However, we are now getting to a point to where the lazy and unproductive are becoming more in number then the hard working. 45% of Americans now depend on some kind of support from the government. This country is on a quick path to destruction and it seems as though people are to stupid to recognize what the problem is.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by vrblackwell

That is a gross misapplication of scripture. Nowhere in those verses do I find Jesus saying that we should steal from those who have worked hard to support the lazy and irresponsible.

Of course we are to show charity to the elderly, the weak, the handicapped, and even those are are simply going through hard times. But know where in scripture will you find that we should support those who are lazy and those who have been irresponsible.

In Matthew 25 Jesus gave talents to three different men, and by liberal standards he was not fair about it. He gave some more then the others. He ended up taking the one from the irresponsible man and gave it to the responsible man. Mean old Jesus left that man with nothing.

And you will never find in scripture Jesus supporting anyone being forced to be charitable. That would be stealing.

The term "social justice" has taken on a new meaning than what it once had. The liberal democrats have stolen the term and now it simply means stealing from those who have worked hard and give it to the lazy and irresponsible so they will show up on election day and vote for them.

This is destroying America and creating a country of lazy idiots who thinks the party will last forever. However, we are now getting to a point to where the lazy and unproductive are becoming more in number then the hard working. 45% of Americans now depend on some kind of support from the government. This country is on a quick path to destruction and it seems as though people are to stupid to recognize what the problem is.

You are correct. The scriptures don't show the social justice agenda. That is why I posted what Jesus told us to do and be.