How the TSA shakes down a fully armed squad

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Aquila

We have a rather open policy regarding use of the internet.

We do often have a lot of down time. It's feast or famine. Some days there aren't enough people to get the job done. Some days we're really slow. I've worked for Lexis Nexis and supported Congressional Information Systems in the private sector. It was the same.

it is called theft of time. Government workers justify it.

The biggest thieves of time and services are government workers when it comes to use of telephones to make personal long distance calls on the employer expense.

How many use gubment computers to watch porn? And they are stealing time and money from taxpayers.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by coadie

The standards on on the web site. Have you finished high school?

The TSA hires temps. That means they are limited to the unemployed or near unemployed. Good workers don't leave ordinary jobs to work as a temp for 8 dollars an hour and hope to become permanent in a year.

Low end of the bell curve. $17,083

3 bucks an hour under Home Depot.

Yes, I've finished high school Coadie.

The TSA in our airport has full time and part time federal employees. Each is subject to a very thorough background check. I process these when new agents are brought aboard here locally with our internal proceedures. The hourly pay depends on the job the employee has. BDO's make more than screeners. But they also have additional training and capabilities. I think many of them would like to see a pay increase. But their benefits aren't bad.

I want to know what you know about our processes Coadie. PROVE to me that you know what you're talking about because I do it for a living.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by coadie

it is called theft of time. Government workers justify it.

The biggest thieves of time and services are government workers when it comes to use of telephones to make personal long distance calls on the employer expense.

How many use gubment computers to watch porn? And they are stealing time and money from taxpayers.

Coadie, you're generalizing. We have a safe search program that blocks everything inappropriate and unapproved by management.

[sandie]

Originally Posted by Ferd

we are back to Aquila's argument that I agree with... to a point.

the better analogy is with Miranda.

You have certain rights extended by the constituion. However, you can choose to surrender those rights volentarily.

With flying, you surrender your right not to be searched as a term of use.

Where i have an issue is that TSA as a government agency should have stricter standards for search than a private company has....

further my issue (which of course is the one I find to be more important,) is we are talking about inneffective and ineffecient methods when there are far better options.

Shouldn't they at least be telling us why they're finding it necessary for enhanced searches?
We knew why we had to start taking off our shoes and why liquids had to be confiscated.

We're talking government here...ineffective methods are their speciality.

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Yes, I've finished high school Coadie.

The TSA in our airport has full time and part time federal employees. Each is subject to a very thorough background check. I process these when new agents are brought aboard here locally with our internal proceedures. The hourly pay depends on the job the employee has. BDO's make more than screeners. But they also have additional training and capabilities. I think many of them would like to see a pay increase. But their benefits aren't bad.

I want to know what you know about our processes Coadie. PROVE to me that you know what you're talking about because I do it for a living.

Didn't coadie just quote the TSA website?

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I stood at checkpoint for about 13 minutes a little bit ago. I saw dozens of passengers going through screening. Saw one pat down. They seemed to be cordially talking. The screener cleared the man and he was on his way to board a safe flight. I saw no issues. A lot of this stuff is just hype. If you consider how many THOUSANDS are going through airport screening right now and compare the handful of complaints... you'll realize that we're just dealing with a moody minority that only wants 15 minutes of fame.

You are blogging from work. Then you knock the passengers as "moody minority"

The airlines really do work hard to provide a safe and comfortible trip.

Then the trashy disrespectful gubment workers mock "moody minority" passengers and hurt the trip experience.

The gubment workers are not trained in customer service.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by sandie

Shouldn't they at least be telling us why they're finding it necessary for enhanced searches?
We knew why we had to start taking off our shoes and why liquids had to be confiscated.

We're talking government here...ineffective methods are their speciality.

That's a great question!

One good example is how terrorist organizations are using implants in women to get explosive material past screening. Most don't know that. So if a woman is examined more thoroughly, she feels violated, not knowing what they are looking for.

[sandie]

I wonder how long before this really starts hurting the airline industry?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by coadie

You are blogging from work. Then you knock the passengers as "moody minority"

The airlines really do work hard to provide a safe and comfortible trip.

Then the trashy disrespectful gubment workers mock "moody minority" passengers and hurt the trip experience.

The gubment workers are not trained in customer service.

Coadie, I'm multi-tasking. Hey, are you going to deliver son? lol

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

Didn't coadie just quote the TSA website?

Coadie didn't even come CLOSE to explaining the TSA's proceedures or the internal secondary proceedures. lol

He doesn't know what he's talking about.