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03-28-2011, 11:31 AM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
The only thing you can Preach is "The Gospel" unto the sinners. Everything else should be Teaching to the Saints. If you are not Preaching Salvation unto repentance, then slow down and teach the saints. Anointed teaching is better then "Preaching to the Choir".
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03-28-2011, 01:40 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
Bro. Holmes??
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03-28-2011, 03:36 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
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Bro. Holmes??
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Joel Holmes the one and only, one of the best !
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03-28-2011, 08:53 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
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Joel Holmes the one and only, one of the best !
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I guess I was wondering how my post had anything to do with Bro. Holmes!
See Post #115
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03-28-2011, 11:27 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
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I guess I was wondering how my post had anything to do with Bro. Holmes!
See Post #115
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Plus to my knowledge Joel Holmes has never been UPC so why would his name even come up in this thread? LOL.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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03-29-2011, 11:07 AM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
Oh whaaat evaa ! picky picky ,someone mentioned screamers,nothing about orgs. i mentioned non screamers ,nothing about orgs.chillax people !
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03-28-2011, 02:21 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
I enjoy listening to Bros. Booker and Coon as they preach and teach. I have heard Bro. Booker get excited and get to preaching with great energy. 
My Pastor, who is also my father, does not does not raise his voice very often in his preaching, and not like some of the others, but he has the same anointing as those who do. There have been times when he has called out sin that there was no way that he could have known, or he has addressed issues that only the church he was in knew. There are many types and styles of teaching and preaching, and it takes all of them to make it.
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03-28-2011, 02:28 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
I am very sad to see that Bro. Johnston has gone the way that he did. One of the last Youth Camps that I attended had him as the evening preacher. I still have somewhere the messages that he preached. I then heard him at the '07 conference and took much of what he had to say to heart. I must say that I feel that he has gone a long way from the anointing that he once had.
The UPCI is not moving quickly enough in the direction that many of the hard left in it desired to go. This could be why a number of them are also leaving. The leadership under Bro. Haney started to emphasize the standards after the vote, and the drift (while not checked) was slowed. I would imagine that one day the more moderate of the liberals that left will rejoin the UPC once it has drifted out to where they are more comfortable with it.
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03-28-2011, 04:24 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
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I am very sad to see that Bro. Johnston has gone the way that he did. One of the last Youth Camps that I attended had him as the evening preacher. I still have somewhere the messages that he preached. I then heard him at the '07 conference and took much of what he had to say to heart. I must say that I feel that he has gone a long way from the anointing that he once had.
The UPCI is not moving quickly enough in the direction that many of the hard left in it desired to go. This could be why a number of them are also leaving. The leadership under Bro. Haney started to emphasize the standards after the vote, and the drift (while not checked) was slowed. I would imagine that one day the more moderate of the liberals that left will rejoin the UPC once it has drifted out to where they are more comfortable with it.
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How in the world would you "feel he has gone a long way from the annointing he once had"?????
That is a very presumptive statement. Has he lost his annointing just because he has left the UPC? By the word "feel" I assume you mean "think" and I am just trying to figure out how you would have enough knowledge to come to that conclusion.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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03-29-2011, 02:40 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???
I said what I did because I watched him preach with power and fervency. What I saw when I went to his website broke my heart, for it was apparent that he no longer held what he once had. I do not know anything about the interior of his church, nor what it looks like, nor anything about his people, but I can see where he has gone by looking at what he has become. However, I would like to see pictures or something so that I could catch a glimpse of his church services.
As I said, what I saw broke my heart. I have to wonder if he has followed after some of the other patterns the "church" world is setting as well.
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