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[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by shazeep

i am surprised, VS. How is the 711 person "sinning?"

Start another thread.

[votivesoul]

Originally Posted by shazeep

i am surprised, VS. How is the 711 person "sinning?"

Immodest exposure of the human body, often the cause of lustful attraction in men, but also in women, misses of the mark of God's glory, which is His righteousness.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

Immodest exposure of the human body, often the cause of lustful attraction in men, but also in women, misses of the mark of God's glory, which is His righteousness.

What was exposed, beyond bad taste or whatever? I'll tell you; your sensibilities are exposed. You are offended, yes? How do you offend a Christian?

I mean, if that is a sin, and a temptation, then a black guy with his pants down around his thighs is no problem, right, because everything is covered enough to call "modest" by some standard--at least not sexually overt. Yet we experience pretty much the same offense at this, yes? what is breast feeding in public?

So the fault lies with the eye and the eyer. Imo it is a trap to be offended, just as it admittedly is to offend also. Yes, she is pretty obviously attention seeking, and messed up; don't get me wrong. So don't be looking. EB, hopefully you see how this goes to the point, even though it is just a hypothetical.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by shazeep

EB, hopefully you see how this goes to the point, even though it is just a hypothetical.

I didn't bring up the pajama wearing female for any reason of immodesty.

How about this, guy walks into Dixie Pig with his pants hanging around his thighs his underwear are obviously dirty, dirtier then my mechanic rags in the trunk of my car. He is wear dirty socks with slippers. Immodesty is the least of this guy's problems. What I'm trying to point out is that toenail clippers, shampoo, deodorant, shaving cream, and Ivory soap, is used by saint and sinner alike. Church isn't even required to maintain some sort of reasonable clean appearance. If the guy (and gal) showed up in church no one would expect them to look like movie stars, but someone who has been in the church for 40 years should at least be able to brush their teeth.

Oh, the guy with the droopy draws, got out of a 2015 white Mercedes, handed me his church card when he saw my Bible on the table.

[shazeep]

good points--but i would say beware of being that "people should stop doing _______" guy, when God prolly wants you to be that guy who does not take offense. Ever.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I didn't bring up the pajama wearing female for any reason of immodesty.

How about this, guy walks into Dixie Pig with his pants hanging around his thighs his underwear are obviously dirty, dirtier then my mechanic rags in the trunk of my car. He is wear dirty socks with slippers. Immodesty is the least of this guy's problems. What I'm trying to point out is that toenail clippers, shampoo, deodorant, shaving cream, and Ivory soap, is used by saint and sinner alike. Church isn't even required to maintain some sort of reasonable clean appearance. If the guy (and gal) showed up in church no one would expect them to look like movie stars, but someone who has been in the church for 40 years should at least be able to brush their teeth.

Oh, the guy with the droopy draws, got out of a 2015 white Mercedes, handed me his church card when he saw my Bible on the table.

ok, so obviously not meaning to offend. It goes back to "How do you offend a Christian?" and the correct answer being of course "You cannot," you are left trying to justify your position, even if he was naked.

[Esaias]

My first visit to an apostolic church - my hair was LONG and I wore jeans and a t shirt. Had a friend go with me with his ear pierced and we both looked like the guys dads threaten their daughters about.

They accepted both of us. I got baptized in the first week. Never heard a word about my appearance. Brother Madden is a man of God if ever I met one.

Doesn't change the fact one ought not to be a professional slob.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

My first visit to an apostolic church - my hair was LONG and I wore jeans and a t shirt. Had a friend go with me with his ear pierced and we both looked like the guys dads threaten their daughters about.

They accepted both of us. I got baptized in the first week. Never heard a word about my appearance. Brother Madden is a man of God if ever I met one.

Doesn't change the fact one ought not to be a professional slob.

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Esaias

My first visit to an apostolic church - my hair was LONG and I wore jeans and a t shirt. Had a friend go with me with his ear pierced and we both looked like the guys dads threaten their daughters about.

They accepted both of us. I got baptized in the first week. Never heard a word about my appearance. Brother Madden is a man of God if ever I met one.

Doesn't change the fact one ought not to be a professional slob.

Good post!

[houston]

Define slob

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by houston

Define slob

slob
/slɒb/
noun
1.
(informal) a slovenly, unattractive, and lazy person