Calling on the Name of Jesus (at baptism)

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Then there is that,

He is misinformed, the Gospel of Matthew definitely was written in Hebrew.

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Amen, good point.

Buenos dias Miguel Florecer.

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I debated a Yahweh guy once he said if he was dying he would hope the name of Jesus was not the last thought he had! This guy was in prison for dealing drugs when God saved him. He was calling on Jesus name when he was delivered and filled with the Spirit he studied himself into reprobation. Sad. He and his comrade said the name Jesus meant the pig.

Muy bien Esteban.

Jesus does not mean pig, I have no idea where anyone got that foolish idea.

Jesus is a transliteration of the name Yeshua. A Transliteration, not his real name.

I rather have the real name than some Transliteration.

Que opina usted Mr. Esteban

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

He is misinformed, the Gospel of Matthew definitely was written in Hebrew.

Aramaic not Hebrew that is one out of 27?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Aramaic not Hebrew that is one out of 27?

Matthew was written in Greek, as proven by chapter 1 verse 23, where Matthew interprets a Hebrew name. Such would have been pointless if it was written in Aramaic or Hebrew.

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Matthew was written in Greek, as proven by chapter 1 verse 23, where Matthew interprets a Hebrew name. Such would have been pointless if it was written in Aramaic or Hebrew.

What about all the Aramaic phrases and words written in Matthew?

[Esaias]

http://www.bible.ca/jw-YHWH-hebrew-matthew.htm

Extensive documentation on Matthew being written in Greek.

[Michael The Disciple]

Many believe the tradition...that the Jews of the 1st century did not speak Hebrew.

In fact the Bible presents nothing of the sort.

Jews spoke to each other in Hebrew.

1Men, brethren, and fathers, hear ye my defence which I make now unto you.
2(And when they heard that he spake in the Hebrew tongue to them, they kept the more silence: and he saith,) Acts 22:1-2

Yeshua spoke to Paul in the HEBREW TONGUE.

13At midday, O king, I saw in the way a light from heaven, above the brightness of the sun, shining round about me and them which journeyed with me. 14And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. 15And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest. Acts 26:13-15

So we can see that "Jesus" actually had a HEBREW NAME!

There were so called "Hellenized" Jews. However we can see that they were considered outside of the normal Jewish culture not the main flow of it.

1And in those days, when the number of the disciples was multiplied, there arose a murmuring of the Grecians against the Hebrews, because their widows were neglected in the daily ministration. Acts 6:1

The Grecians were the "Hellenized Jews". A minority of the Jewish people of the 1st century. A minority among the Messianic Assembly of the 1st century.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Many believe the tradition...that the Jews of the 1st century did not speak Hebrew.

In fact the Bible presents nothing of the sort.

Jews spoke to each other in Hebrew.

1Men, brethren, and fathers, hear ye my defence which I make now unto you.
2(And when they heard that he spake in the Hebrew tongue to them, they kept the more silence: and he saith,) Acts 22:1-2

Yeshua spoke to Paul in the HEBREW TONGUE.

13At midday, O king, I saw in the way a light from heaven, above the brightness of the sun, shining round about me and them which journeyed with me. 14And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. 15And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest. Acts 26:13-15

So we can see that "Jesus" actually had a HEBREW NAME!

There were so called "Hellenized" Jews. However we can see that they were considered outside of the normal Jewish culture not the main flow of it.

1And in those days, when the number of the disciples was multiplied, there arose a murmuring of the Grecians against the Hebrews, because their widows were neglected in the daily ministration. Acts 6:1

The Grecians were the "Hellenized Jews". A minority of the Jewish people of the 1st century. A minority among the Messianic Assembly of the 1st century.

Paul said "And saying to me in the Hebrew tongue..." thus showing PAUL was NOT speaking in Hebrew when he related the account.

So did Paul say "Iesous" or "Yashua" when he was speaking IN GREEK to the king?

Nobody has said the Judeans did NOT speak Hebrew, that I am aware of.

Again, the apostles did not teach Greek speaking gentiles they ought to use a Hebrew pronunciation.

God Himself inspired the NT scriptures IN GREEK.

God Himself preserved the NT scriptures in Greek.

God inspired and preserved "Iesous Christos", not "Yashua haMashiach".

Nobody ever even thought of this until wacky Adventist splinter groups (Watchtower Society and others) came up with it. And NONE of them agree on what the name is or how it should be pronounced. And MOST of them claim it is salvational.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Paul said "And saying to me in the Hebrew tongue..." thus showing PAUL was NOT speaking in Hebrew when he related the account.

So did Paul say "Iesous" or "Yashua" when he was speaking IN GREEK to the king?

Nobody has said the Judeans did NOT speak Hebrew, that I am aware of.

Again, the apostles did not teach Greek speaking gentiles they ought to use a Hebrew pronunciation.

God Himself inspired the NT scriptures IN GREEK.

God Himself preserved the NT scriptures in Greek.

God inspired and preserved "Iesous Christos", not "Yashua haMashiach".

Nobody ever even thought of this until wacky Adventist splinter groups (Watchtower Society and others) came up with it. And NONE of them agree on what the name is or how it should be pronounced. And MOST of them claim it is salvational.

Homerun!