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09-13-2007, 02:26 PM
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Sister Alvear
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Communism vs Christianity
Communism vs Christianity
“Communism is based upon the granite foundation of materialism dedicated to the liquidation of religion. Communism leaves no room for religion.” The Lexicon of Atheism. Moscow, 1959
“Marxism is materialism. As such it is with out mercy for religion. Every religious idea, every idea of God, even flirting with the idea of God is unutterable vileness.” Vladimir Lenin
“Let us drive out the capitalists from earth and God from heaven.” Soviet Slogan
“Our enemy is God. Hatred of God is the beginning of Wisdom.” The Philosophy of Communism, Fordham, 1952
“In this revolution we will have to awaken the devil in the people, to stir up the basest passions.” Dzerjinskii, Paris, 1936
“We do not tight against believers and not even against clergymen. We fight against God to snatch believers from Him.” Moscow Newspaper, 1975
“The soundest strategy in war is to post pone final military operations until the moral degeneration of the enemy renders the mortal blow both possible and easy.” Karl Marx
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09-13-2007, 02:28 PM
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Since our president is communist thought you might like to know a little about the evils of communism...besides the thought they hate us Americans!
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09-13-2007, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear
Since our president is communist thought you might like to know a little about the evils of communism...besides the thought they hate us Americans!
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too bad Jesus and the early Chrisitan church were the original comunists, huh??
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09-13-2007, 02:32 PM
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Superheros are evil...
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Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84
too bad Jesus and the early Chrisitan church were the original comunists, huh??
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Ignorant comment...
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09-13-2007, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by "GL"
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no, its not... They were...
Jesus was a proponent of more communist ideology than anyone else in the history of the world until Marx...
The early church ACTUALLY LIVED communist lives, sharing everything they had (or did you skip that verse)???
I realize in modern America communism = evil, but the fact of the matter is that socialism/communism is the IDEAL way to live, the only problem is it is essentially impossible to actually pull off since people are evil....
but Jesus proposed many communistic things and the early church, from what we know about them, had what is the closest to socialistic society in the history of the world...
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09-13-2007, 02:38 PM
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Superheros are evil...
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You are misrepresenting the meaning of governmental communism.
Jesus did not advocate, preach or practice a political government where all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a self-perpetuating political party.
I will agree with you that the early church did display voluntary collectivist principles, but they did not practice communism.
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For you, brethren, have been called to liberty; only do not use liberty as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another. For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." But if you bite and devour one another, beware lest you be consumed by one another! (Gal 5:13-15/ NKJV)
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09-13-2007, 08:47 PM
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Smiles everyone...Smiles!!
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear
Communism vs Christianity
“Communism is based upon the granite foundation of materialism dedicated to the liquidation of religion. Communism leaves no room for religion.” The Lexicon of Atheism. Moscow, 1959
“Marxism is materialism. As such it is with out mercy for religion. Every religious idea, every idea of God, even flirting with the idea of God is unutterable vileness.” Vladimir Lenin
“Let us drive out the capitalists from earth and God from heaven.” Soviet Slogan
“Our enemy is God. Hatred of God is the beginning of Wisdom.” The Philosophy of Communism, Fordham, 1952
“In this revolution we will have to awaken the devil in the people, to stir up the basest passions.” Dzerjinskii, Paris, 1936
“We do not tight against believers and not even against clergymen. We fight against God to snatch believers from Him.” Moscow Newspaper, 1975
“The soundest strategy in war is to post pone final military operations until the moral degeneration of the enemy renders the mortal blow both possible and easy.” Karl Marx
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear
Since our president is communist thought you might like to know a little about the evils of communism...besides the thought they hate us Americans!
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The topic of this thread, for those that took the rabbit trail.
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09-13-2007, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by stmatthew
The topic of this thread, for those that took the rabbit trail. 
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to say that communism itself hates americans or everyone who espouses socialism hates America is even more ludicrous than saying its the anti-Christ... (note to self: if you are going to disagree, disagree with the most wrong statement, not the least wrong one...)
The simple fact is that an ideology that wants everyone to be healthy and not in poverty is not evil... and really that's what Christ encouraged, those who were well off to give to the poor and the sick so that the poor and the sick were all taken care off, thus making no one poor and people as healthy as possible...
thus, the goal of Marx and Christ, at least as far as social reform on this earth goes, were the same...
Now Christ also wanted to save people's souls, too... Whereas Marx wasn't worried about that, which is where they split...
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09-13-2007, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84
to say that communism itself hates americans or everyone who espouses socialism hates America is even more ludicrous than saying its the anti-Christ... (note to self: if you are going to disagree, disagree with the most wrong statement, not the least wrong one...)
The simple fact is that an ideology that wants everyone to be healthy and not in poverty is not evil... and really that's what Christ encouraged, those who were well off to give to the poor and the sick so that the poor and the sick were all taken care off, thus making no one poor and people as healthy as possible...
thus, the goal of Marx and Christ, at least as far as social reform on this earth goes, were the same...
Now Christ also wanted to save people's souls, too... Whereas Marx wasn't worried about that, which is where they split...
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09-13-2007, 11:52 PM
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Get up Chuck!
He knows very little about Jesus or the Biblical teachings that clearly counter socialism and communism....much less about Marx.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx
Read em and weep while you are ROTFL!
This guy was as big a joke as his fans...maybe bigger.
Read the Criticisms section especially.
He is even more pathetic than when I had to study him in college. My professor at the time has since publicly denounced all the rubish that she tried to indoctrinate us with, on the Radio of all places.
Therefore there is still hope for the Marxists when they stop to put it all on the scale.
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