The Assembly of God is NOT Pentecostal!!!

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Hey, did I tell you guys that the AOG is worried that they will not even be Pentecostal in less than ten years? Did I tell you that they immediately took action to teach the core Pentecostal distinctives of baptism and Holy Ghost? Did I tell you that their reaction may be too late?

Did I tell you that `they are more concerned about Pentecostal distinctives than *ahem* some of the posters on this thread?
Well, I'm sorry if I haven't.

I will try to do better in the future.

Not true. If that were the case would I have encouraged my son to seek the baptism of the Holy Ghost?

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

It's in their writings ... PP.

They did not think Trinnies were lost.

Documented, son.

Your side has no history.

So you must re-write, sanitize, censor, or ignore

Daniel, if I became a Pentecostal back in the early days I would have struggled to fit this Pentecostal experience into my paradigm like they did because it is possible that most of the believers I would have known would have been "dunked" three times, once for the Father, once for the Son, and once for the Holy Spirit. And the majority of them may never have heard of speaking in tongues except for some strange methodists back in the day.

Yes, it would have been difficult to say Grannie never received the Holy Spirit because Grannie never spoke in tongues. So maybe I would have resorted to a teaching where the Spirit is given at faith unlike what happened throughout the book of Acts as well to sooth my mind. But frankly, I'm more interested in serving God in Spirit and in TRUTH.

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

Daniel, if I became a Pentecostal back in the early days I would have struggled to fit this Pentecostal experience into my paradigm like they did because it is possible that most of the believers I would have known would have been "dunked" three times, once for the Father, once for the Son, and once for the Holy Spirit. And the majority of them may never have heard of speaking in tongues except for some strange methodists back in the day.

Yes, it would have been difficult to say Grannie never received the Holy Spirit because Grannie never spoke in tongues. So maybe I would have resorted to a teaching where the Spirit is given at faith unlike what happened throughout the book of Acts as well to sooth my mind. But frankly, I'm more interested in serving God in Spirit and in TRUTH.

So you are saying first generation Pentecostals were teachers of false doctrines?

[TRFrance]

Well, I've seen this wrestling match before.


Maybe I'll just peruse another thread for a while, as this fight unfolds......again.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

So you are saying first generation Pentecostals were teachers of false doctrines?

I'm a first generation pentecostal. I date my doctrine back to the early church in the Bible. My heritage is built on the inspired words of the prophets and apostles with Jesus Christ being the chief cornerstone.

Yes, I'm saying some of the things taught by the early 20th century "pentecostals" were false.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

Well, I've seen this wrestling match before.


Maybe I'll just peruse another thread for a while, as this fight unfolds......again.

How about a little input?

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

Well, I've seen this wrestling match before.


Maybe I'll just peruse another thread for a while as this fight unfolds......again.

The former AOG Assistant GS believes the AOG is in danger of being un-Pentecostal. What does he consider Pentecostal doctrine?

Water baptism.

Holy Ghost infilling.

The AOG has deemphasized these two distinctives for years, and now fewer and fewer have experienced these things.

Emphasis, emphasis, emphasis.

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

I'm a first generation pentecostal. I date my doctrine back to the early church in the Bible. My heritage is built on the inspired words of the prophets and apostles with Jesus Christ being the chief cornerstone.

Yes, I'm saying some of the things taught by the early 20th century "pentecostals" were false.

Unless one doesn't buy your interpretation.

You have yet to answer the question...

Does God forgive your sins at repentance?

[SDG]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

I'm a first generation pentecostal. I date my doctrine back to the early church in the Bible. My heritage is built on the inspired words of the prophets and apostles with Jesus Christ being the chief cornerstone.

Yes, I'm saying some of the things taught by the early 20th century "pentecostals" were false.

There you have it ... more proof ... this new-fangled PAJCer has no history ... all groups claim roots in the 1st century church ... all of them.

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

The former AOG Assistant GS believes the AOG is in danger of being un-Pentecostal. What does he consider Pentecostal doctrine?

Water baptism.

Holy Ghost infilling.

The AOG has deemphasized these two distinctives for years, and now fewer and fewer have experienced these things.

Emphasis, emphasis, emphasis.

You cause doesn't relate to your effect. Thhe Yadon's preached salvation at Repentance but they didn't quit baptizing or seeing people filled with the HS.