Charismatic Sweep

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by diakonos

I’ve seen videos of them baptizing... they don’t even call on the titles.

I have not observed anything of him in some time. The last I knew he was promoting Apostolic baptism in Jesus name. In the video I posted he SEEMED to be saying one of the big problems with the big Charismatic Preachers is they dont follow baptism in Jesus name. He specifies Todd Bently.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I have not observed anything of him in some time.

Nothing outside of the 1970s

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

I’m not sure why he is here for asylum. I listened to a message or meeting from him and my skin crawled. Just be careful.

Is there any specifics what is making him evil? Or just a feeling?

[n david]

Originally Posted by diakonos

They don’t baptize in Jesus’ name.

Years ago I saw videos of Torben baptizing in Jesus Name. He certainly believes it, as shown in his video below.
https://youtu.be/vzkYSvQcG6w

[n david]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Is there any specifics what is making him evil? Or just a feeling?

I'd take his comment with a grain of salt.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

I’m not sure why he is here for asylum. I listened to a message or meeting from him and my skin crawled. Just be careful.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Is there any specifics what is making him evil? Or just a feeling?

I'm a little surprised, because Nicodemus is into the "devil behind every bush" thing and Torben is also into demons being cast out everywhere.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by n david

Years ago I saw videos of Torben baptizing in Jesus Name. He certainly believes it, as shown in his video below.
https://youtu.be/vzkYSvQcG6w

Much excellent teaching! He says when you know what is right you need to act on it. He does not have the revelation of the Oneness of God, neither did I when I was baptized into the name of Jesus.

I have seen several Charismatic groups go this direction. They see HOW to baptize. In Jesus name. Very good. Yet they fear being identified with Oneness Pentecostals. So they go and baptize into his name and give the impression they are bringing the new revelation!

They dont want to give credit where credit is due that is to the Oneness Pentecostals. They also have been brainwashed to believe in the 3 co equal co eternal person theory and are afraid to open their hearts to listen to Oneness.

As to Torben having lived in Denmark his whole life he may not have had much if any contact with Oneness people. My hope and prayer will be that when he begins to run into some of them he will come all the way in.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by diakonos

Let him. He embraces charismatic and complainants about apostolics.

I "embrace" Charismatic in this sense. Most of them believe in receiving the Holy Spirit. I believe a percentage of them (how many I know not) actually do receive it. I received the Holy Ghost never having been in either a Charismatic or Pentcostal Church.

The early Christians believed receiving the Spirit was God showing he bears witness of the persons faith. Acts 15:8. With the myriad of Churches around I can certainly understand why many get confused early in their walk and follow men who they THINK can help them. I was the same way.

I will love them and pray for them as I have opportunity. While I know that 95% of them dont see the Oneness and Acts 2:8 new birth as essential foundation truth I have faith the time is coming many of them will.

I embrace "Apostolics" in this sense. As I sought God for more knowledge of him he sent some of them into my life along the way. I discovered they had more truth concerning the Oneness of God and new birth. I consider myself "Apostolic" or "Oneness Pentecostal".

Yet I would not be ashamed to be thought of as "Charismatic". I believe in the gifts of the Spirit. Some Charismatics are consecrated and holy people. I WOULD be ashamed to be considered a follower of practically any of the big name teachers they admire.

Neither am I ashamed to be called "Apostolic" Some of them are consecrated and holy people. I cant think of any of their big name Preachers I get excited about either.

To me they are both just movements that sprang up from God as he brings a people back to the true New Testament faith. All he calls are called to be overcomers and walk in truth. All his disciples are called to be LIKE HIM.

Whoever fails the grace of God will be lost. While attempting to love all that call on the Lord we must be sure out first loyalty is to the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ.

[diakonos]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Much excellent teaching! He says when you know what is right you need to act on it. He does not have the revelation of the Oneness of God, neither did I when I was baptized into the name of Jesus.

I have seen several Charismatic groups go this direction. They see HOW to baptize. In Jesus name. Very good. Yet they fear being identified with Oneness Pentecostals. So they go and baptize into his name and give the impression they are bringing the new revelation!

They dont want to give credit where credit is due that is to the Oneness Pentecostals. They also have been brainwashed to believe in the 3 co equal co eternal person theory and are afraid to open their hearts to listen to Oneness.

As to Torben having lived in Denmark his whole life he may not have had much if any contact with Oneness people. My hope and prayer will be that when he begins to run into some of them he will come all the way in.

The credit goes to Jesus