For those who believe in a post-trib rapture...

#1 07-16-2007, 05:29 PM

(I posted this on GNC, but wanted to see what respone I might get here as well...)

Those who believe in a post-trib rapture believe that the church will go through a time of tribulation during which the forces of darkness dominating the social, political, economic, and even military-industrial aspects of civilization will wage war against the church.

Basically the Fourth Reich on a global scale.

So my question for those of you who believe in the post-trib rapture, what preparations have you made to 'go through it?'

Not merely in the area of personal, individual, family preparation, but CHURCH preparation? Have you established a network of fellow believers, trustworthy and known to you, that you can depend on (and who can depend on you)?

And finally, what would you say to someone who just recently came to the conclusion that post-trib is correct Bible truth?

Just pray and keep going to church?

Or are there specific steps to be made to prepare for such a time of trouble? Contacts to be made, things to be acquired and things to let go of...?

What say ye?

BrotherEastman · #2 07-16-2007, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eliseus

(I posted this on GNC, but wanted to see what respone I might get here as well...)

Those who believe in a post-trib rapture believe that the church will go through a time of tribulation during which the forces of darkness dominating the social, political, economic, and even military-industrial aspects of civilization will wage war against the church.

Basically the Fourth Reich on a global scale.

So my question for those of you who believe in the post-trib rapture, what preparations have you made to 'go through it?'

Not merely in the area of personal, individual, family preparation, but CHURCH preparation? Have you established a network of fellow believers, trustworthy and known to you, that you can depend on (and who can depend on you)?

And finally, what would you say to someone who just recently came to the conclusion that post-trib is correct Bible truth?

Just pray and keep going to church?

Or are there specific steps to be made to prepare for such a time of trouble? Contacts to be made, things to be acquired and things to let go of...?

What say ye?

I'd like to know the answers to these questions myself.

stmatthew · #3 07-16-2007, 06:41 PM

Us "spiritualizers" don't have to worry about all this, cause we see that the tribulation has been going on since the days of the Apostles.

Sherri · #4 07-16-2007, 07:34 PM

I can't see Jesus rapturing us out of here to escape persecution when others have gone through it in the past. I HOPE I'm wrong, but I bevieve I'm not.

Preparations???? I just have to believe that whatever we face, God will give us the grace at that time.

#5 07-17-2007, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Sherri

I can't see Jesus rapturing us out of here to escape persecution when others have gone through it in the past. I HOPE I'm wrong, but I bevieve I'm not.

Preparations???? I just have to believe that whatever we face, God will give us the grace at that time.

I must agree! Indeed, would not RIGHTEOUSNESS (i.e., equality of justice/treatment) demand that we NOT be exempted from persecution, yea, even death, when God has allowed many other saints to be subjected to such in times past?

I believe that this is perhaps the one thing which so many fail/neglect to consider when trying to determine the "timing" for the so-called rapture of the church.

Indeed, if there are to be ANY "living" saints present upon the earth at the moment of our Lord's 2nd coming, then I remain completely frustrated in my efforts to locate a sound scruptural answer to this question Jesus uttered - "Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?" (Luke 18:8)

Concerning the actions one should undertake now to prepare for the expected persecutions during the coming reign of the Anti-Christ, my suggestion would be to simply exert our best efforts towards making our "calling and election" absolutely certain. If this is done, God will take care of the rest, just as He did for the Israelites of old following their departure from the land of Egypt. Not only did God provide them with the daily food they required, but we also find that even the same clothing they wore when departing from Eqypt was none the worse from wear during the 40 years they wandered in the wilderness.

In other words, why sweat the small stuff? Focus instead on the major thing.... a right standing in our relationship with God.

I certainly do not cherish the thought that I might be required to give my life in defense of my faith and trust in God, yet it remains my hope and prayer that, if need be, I would do so willingly, being confident of the "promised" rewards which lie ahead beyond the darkened veil of death.

RevDWW · #6 07-17-2007, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherri

I can't see Jesus rapturing us out of here to escape persecution when others have gone through it in the past. I HOPE I'm wrong, but I bevieve I'm not.

Preparations???? I just have to believe that whatever we face, God will give us the grace at that time.

Tribulation and prosecution...not necessarily
Wrath.....perhaps

mizpeh · #7 07-16-2007, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eliseus

(I posted this on GNC, but wanted to see what respone I might get here as well...)

Those who believe in a post-trib rapture believe that the church will go through a time of tribulation during which the forces of darkness dominating the social, political, economic, and even military-industrial aspects of civilization will wage war against the church.

Basically the Fourth Reich on a global scale.

So my question for those of you who believe in the post-trib rapture, what preparations have you made to 'go through it?'

Not merely in the area of personal, individual, family preparation, but CHURCH preparation? Have you established a network of fellow believers, trustworthy and known to you, that you can depend on (and who can depend on you)?

And finally, what would you say to someone who just recently came to the conclusion that post-trib is correct Bible truth?

Just pray and keep going to church?

Or are there specific steps to be made to prepare for such a time of trouble? Contacts to be made, things to be acquired and things to let go of...?

What say ye?

I'm leaning more and more to post trib. Are there scriptures instructing us to stockpile food, etc, to keep us through the times we can't buy without receiving the mark.

I'm preparing my mind to accept I may have my head removed from my body. (Hopefully with a sharp blade!)

Whatever comes my way, I'm trusting in the Lord. God is on the throne.

ps46:1 God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble. 2 Therefore will not we fear, though the earth be removed, and though the mountains be carried into the midst of the sea; 3 Though the waters thereof roar and be troubled, though the mountains shake with the swelling thereof. Selah.

Truly Blessed · #8 07-16-2007, 07:50 PM

I believe in the Pre-Wrath Rapture of the church. I feel as a pastor who believes this that it is my obligation to share that view with any congregation I pastor. I just completed a 12 week series on this. We need to encourage people to live their lives with this view in mind, which does include preparation on every level.

I always say when sharing on this subject that this is one issue I hope I am totally wrong about. However, I don't see the evidence that allows me to embrace any other position on the timing of the rapture.

pelathais · #9 07-16-2007, 08:05 PM

I pretty much lost my dispensational view point after a 6 hour "interview" with a local police captain and some Federal agents. They stopped by to pump me for information on the UPC in general after they had received what they thought were threats against the President of the United States and other world leaders from the UPC.

I would advise everyone not to be too silly (or too serious) about "preparations" for conflict with the U.S. government or any particular "Beast." Not that I fear my government. It's just that my experience left me feeling very ashamed of my associating with a bunch of nut jobs. And then September 11, happened and my shame turned into real depression.

After OKC, Waco and 9/11 - I can tell you that I for one am firmly on the side of freedom and America. Actually seeing the whole Dispensational thing in practice I've had to work out a better way of understanding the Bible. And what's sad is the way we always held to a Dispensational view but never had the courage to call it what it is.

Sister Alvear · #10 07-16-2007, 08:10 PM

I sincerely believe the church will go through the 7 years. God will be with us and many will seal their testimony by giving their life. Not the most popular belief at this time...however that is what I believe.
I believe in a literal 1000 year reign on earth...I plan to live and reign with Him!
However if this is not the way it will be I don´t think it will cost me my salvation...some choose to differ on this...