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Old 03-19-2007, 01:55 PM
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UPC had me to believe I could not breath with out thier rules and doctrines.

But I removed the mask and breathed.

There was life out side the city.

Haven't taken time for the video but will.....

God Bless you.....

I am glad you are free now
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Old 03-19-2007, 01:55 PM
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T H I S M A Y S H O C K Y O U!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

My wife and I have never worn wedding bands and neither of us have been kidnapped and held as sex slaves.

We have never had a television, vcr, or any type of Hollywood entertainment YET we do know who the president is and even heard about Anna Nicole Smith.

My wife has never cut her hair and I have never heard her complain about fixing it as a burden. She had a sickness and started losing her hair and prayed until it stopped and started coming back.

My wife dresses modestly though classy and we hardly go anywhere that unsaved folks do not compliment her on her clothes.

I have not worn a short sleeve shirt since a young boy and have not had a meltdown.

You know we love living just like we live. We are HAPPY.
Elder - I don't think any of us have any problem at all with your personal standards and lifestyle. I do think it is admirable and I commend you for it (like you REALLY need my commendation! LOL) As you know - we did it all (and more) too when we were in the "Apostolic" movement. I have close personal friends and family that live this lifestyle and we fellowship a lot. We love them! I made a choice to leave the UPC and the Conservative Apostolic lifestyle and have never regretted it.

That is not the point here - this guy gets on and starts BLASTING those that left the UPC and now do not live the standards of the "Apostolics' or Wesleyan Holiness. I think we need to hold his feet to the fire that you cannot get on here and blast everybody that does not do it your way.
He is WRONG!
His definition of Grace is wrong!
His definition of legalism is wrong!
His thinking that we all want back in the UPC and desire to fellowship with them is wrong.
His thinking that he is right and everybody else is wrong - IS WRONG!

He strikes me as a kook that has no clue what he is talking about.
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Old 03-19-2007, 02:02 PM
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Haven't taken time for the video but will.....

God Bless you.....

I am glad you are free now
I wish you really ment it.

Less than 4 minutes long. A music video from D.C. Talk.

This is a perfect example of the UPC, it's doctrines and those that escape.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmXavog1hlA
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Old 03-19-2007, 02:04 PM
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Elder - I don't think any of us have any problem at all with your personal standards and lifestyle. I do think it is admirable and I commend you for it (like you REALLY need my commendation! LOL) As you know - we did it all (and more) too when we were in the "Apostolic" movement. I have close personal friends and family that live this lifestyle and we fellowship a lot. We love them! I made a choice to leave the UPC and the Conservative Apostolic lifestyle and have never regretted it.

That is not the point here - this guy gets on and starts BLASTING those that left the UPC and now do not live the standards of the "Apostolics' or Wesleyan Holiness. I think we need to hold his feet to the fire that you cannot get on here and blast everybody that does not do it your way.
He is WRONG!
His definition of Grace is wrong!
His definition of legalism is wrong!
His thinking that we all want back in the UPC and desire to fellowship with them is wrong.
His thinking that he is right and everybody else is wrong - IS WRONG!

He strikes me as a kook that has no clue what he is talking about.
It really is getting under your skin is it not.......
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Less than 4 minutes long. A music video from D.C. Talk.

This is a perfect example of the UPC, it's doctrines and those that escape.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmXavog1hlA
I saw it Coop and I am pretty progressive! LOL It struck me as odd. Sorry - I didn't get it! Still love ya though!
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Old 03-19-2007, 02:06 PM
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I wish you really ment it.

Less than 4 minutes long. A music video from D.C. Talk.

This is a perfect example of the UPC, it's doctrines and those that escape.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmXavog1hlA
Now you completely misconstrue.....

I am glad that you feel free....

We are all free to make our choices....

Despite what Atlanta Bishop thinks....I am not here trying to force my way on anyone else.....

I simply posted and he and others feel the need to pound on rks and set him strait because he is a kook and has no clue....

I am glad you have found yourself....

God Bless.....
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Old 03-19-2007, 02:11 PM
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I saw it Coop and I am pretty progressive! LOL It struck me as odd. Sorry - I didn't get it! Still love ya though!
That's OK.
I felt like the Guy in the video that removes his breathing mask and then realizes he can breath and survive with out that breathing apparatus provided by those that Governed and ruled.


It was all a lie.
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I saw it Coop and I am pretty progressive! LOL It struck me as odd. Sorry - I didn't get it! Still love ya though!

Dude this is wierd....

Is the guy running form the UPCI police or what.....

And do the tubes represent indoctrinination or what....

And all the little kids.....

WIERD

But God Bless you in your new liberty......
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Old 03-19-2007, 02:15 PM
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Now you completely misconstrue.....

I am glad that you feel free....

We are all free to make our choices....

Despite what Atlanta Bishop thinks....I am not here trying to force my way on anyone else.....

I simply posted and he and others feel the need to pound on rks and set him strait because he is a kook and has no clue....

I am glad you have found yourself....

God Bless.....
Ok, Here is an example. When I was in the UPC, my Friend that was the drummer for many years at the church decided he want to grow a beard.

He stepped down from drumming willingly.

I was in the restroom when and elder confronted him and and asked, Why did you sell out man. We need you up there playing drums.

But there were other young drummers wanted to play.

That same licenced UPC elder confronted me in the rest room.

My hair turns blond on top when I spend many days in the hot sun working.

He asked me if I was putting "sun-in my hair". I said no, it lightens up in the sun.

He said, no your putting "sun-in" in it, as if I was sinning by dying my hair.
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Old 03-19-2007, 02:22 PM
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Dude this is wierd....

Is the guy running form the UPCI police or what.....

And do the tubes represent indoctrinination or what....
And all the little kids.....

WIERD

But God Bless you in your new liberty......
Yes, yes and thank you.
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