Bubba says hey, he is on a new project... No time to peruse AFF while waiting for downloads, so he is in major withdrawal. He is having me check up though and make sure it is up and running without him....
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
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Renda, the kids will have a problem if the pastor is saying not to and the mom is saying its OK.
Kids are funny about religion. They hate hypocrisy and nuance is often lost on them.
If the pastors approach is one of preference, then there is room for this family without worrying about the kids.
But if this is a serious issue for that pastor, confusion will reign and the kids wont be what either that pastor is or what their parents are.
15 years as a youth pastor gives me a unique perspective on the subject.
I completely agree - - that's why we left UPC when we did - - didn't want to confuse our kids.
However, I believe this church it won't be a big issue.
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My motto is "be careful what authority you submit to." We are told to "obey them that have the rule over you."
If he is in disagreement with the spiritual authority in his life, the kids will pick up on it. I, personally, would stay out of the situation, because I can see no good coming out of attending a church that teaches doctrines a person disagrees with.
My motto is "be careful what authority you submit to." We are told to "obey them that have the rule over you."
If he is in disagreement with the spiritual authority in his life, the kids will pick up on it. I, personally, would stay out of the situation, because I can see no good coming out of attending a church that teaches doctrines a person disagrees with.
I agree PP
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I think his dad was a major force in the AMF leaving the UPC years ago!
Anthony Ballestero is the pastor.......................who is the oldest son of Martyn Ballestero who is the son of Carl Ballestero all have been a member of amf at one point or another......so Anthony is the Grandson of Carl Ballestero....The Church does run around 400 and The pastor is still UPCI as well as the rest of the family.........If i am not mistaken I did meet someone who was from the Christ church in Nashville last Friday who was talking to our youth pastor Phil Vannoy who knew many of the same people up there....(may just be a coincidence) I am the youngest of the Ballestero boys which is how i know all this....... btw bro sims is in Naples his brother attends New Destiny....If your friend doesnt like Clearwater church (which I hope isn't the case) Bro Hubba is in New Port Ritchie... they have awesome people and church....... good racial mixture up there too...with a nice size youth group..... also there is Bro Wolfs church in Tampa, Bro Davies church in Tampa, Bro Rashidi Collins church in Tampa, and pastor bo in Largo... I have been to all which are really good. the only two i have not been to are st petersburg and dunedin....but if they are not interested in being at clearwater i would attend one of the above......if you have any questions or your friend does feel free to call 727 738 1656 or you can ask me ..but the best thing to do is just speak to the pastor this Sunday or call the office
Anthony Ballestero is the pastor.......................who is the oldest son of Martyn Ballestero who is the son of Carl Ballestero all have been a member of amf at one point or another......so Anthony is the Grandson of Carl Ballestero....The Church does run around 400 and The pastor is still UPCI as well as the rest of the family.........If i am not mistaken I did meet someone who was from the Christ church in Nashville last Friday who was talking to our youth pastor Phil Vannoy who knew many of the same people up there....(may just be a coincidence) I am the youngest of the Ballestero boys which is how i know all this....... btw bro sims is in Naples his brother attends New Destiny....If your friend doesnt like Clearwater church (which I hope isn't the case) Bro Hubba is in New Port Ritchie... they have awesome people and church....... good racial mixture up there too...with a nice size youth group..... also there is Bro Wolfs church in Tampa, Bro Davies church in Tampa, Bro Rashidi Collins church in Tampa, and pastor bo in Largo... I have been to all which are really good. the only two i have not been to are st petersburg and dunedin....but if they are not interested in being at clearwater i would attend one of the above......if you have any questions or your friend does feel free to call 727 738 1656 or you can ask me i hope i answered some of what you wondered about
Mercy! That is alot of info. I gotta digest that. Wow!
Good to see ya posting, lovinglife
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