Ministries for women porn addicts

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Being pure in mind and body doesn't require us to be prudish. It isn't prudish to stay focused on one person--my spouse--during sex. What's sexier than that? How annoying and hurtful is it to wonder if your spouse is pretending you're Pamela Anderson? Good grief.

Bring your thoughts into captivity, and if you mess up--repent. Grace isn't there as an excuse to sin and continue to lack self-control; it's just there to catch you when you fall in spite of your best efforts.

I Corinthians 10:13 comes into play here.

I'm not particularly bothered by the idea that some people struggle with keeping their thoughts pure because of things they've been exposed to. Okay. God can help them overcome that (if they put in the effort). What I DO take issue with is making room for the flesh to rule because you think it's too hard to fight it. "I give up--it's just gonna happen every time, sorry--so I guess God will have to just forgive me when it happens."

I think people can be more in control of themselves than that. We aren't beasts with uncontrollable urges and instincts. God wouldn't expect us to exercise self-control if it were impossible.

[Jeffrey]

I love how being righteous for some is just a matter of the will. Like a New Year's Resolution.

All the wet blankets are coming out

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

I love how being righteous for some is just a matter of the will. Like a New Year's Resolution.

All the wet blankets are coming out

No, we have to exercise self-control, and where that ends, the power of God to be an overcomer begins. I Corinthians 10:13 says that God makes a way of escape. If that's true, then we never have an excuse to sin. We might have a reason or a justification, but ultimately we are responsible for our choices. Human weakness leads to us giving in to our flesh, but if we walk after the Spirit, we will NOT fulfill the lust of the flesh. Grace teaches us to be righteous. It helps us keep trying, keep going until we "get it."

Titus 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Titus 2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;


Galatians 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.


James 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
James 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

Romans 5:21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

No, we have to exercise self-control, and where that ends, the power of God to be an overcomer begins. I Corinthians 10:13 says that God makes a way of escape. If that's true, then we never have an excuse to sin. We might have a reason or a justification, but ultimately we are responsible for our choices. Human weakness leads to us giving in to our flesh, but if we walk after the Spirit, we will NOT fulfill the lust of the flesh. Grace teaches us to be righteous. It helps us keep trying, keep going until we "get it."

Titus 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Titus 2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;


Galatians 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.


James 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
James 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

Romans 5:21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.

Yes, God will help you "endure" or "go through it." This is right before a warning about not being so self-confident and learning by those who have gone before us.

This obedience comes by a life in the Spirit, not by a strong human will. All they have accomplished is asceticism. But a life in the Spirit has acted out and displayed a mature faith.

In context, Paul makes it clear (even to the fornicating Corinthians) that this isn't an issue dangling them over hell's flames. This is about being mature, growing and becoming in Christ. I do agree, lazy, habitual sin leads to unbelief.

However, the topic remains, that what some are calling sin, other's aren't so sure it's sinful.

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Being pure in mind and body doesn't require us to be prudish. It isn't prudish to stay focused on one person--my spouse--during sex. What's sexier than that? How annoying and hurtful is it to wonder if your spouse is pretending you're Pamela Anderson? Good grief.

Bring your thoughts into captivity, and if you mess up--repent. Grace isn't there as an excuse to sin and continue to lack self-control; it's just there to catch you when you fall in spite of your best efforts.

I Corinthians 10:13 comes into play here.

I'm not particularly bothered by the idea that some people struggle with keeping their thoughts pure because of things they've been exposed to. Okay. God can help them overcome that (if they put in the effort). What I DO take issue with is making room for the flesh to rule because you think it's too hard to fight it. "I give up--it's just gonna happen every time, sorry--so I guess God will have to just forgive me when it happens."

I think people can be more in control of themselves than that. We aren't beasts with uncontrollable urges and instincts. God wouldn't expect us to exercise self-control if it were impossible.

A more accurate interpretation of 2 Cor 10:

The world is unprincipled. It's dog-eat-dog out there! The world doesn't fight fair. But we don't live or fight our battles that way—never have and never will. The tools of our trade aren't for marketing or manipulation, but they are for demolishing that entire massively corrupt culture. We use our powerful God-tools for smashing warped philosophies, tearing down barriers erected against the truth of God, fitting every loose thought and emotion and impulse into the structure of life shaped by Christ. Our tools are ready at hand for clearing the ground of every obstruction and building lives of obedience into maturity.

Not exactly about sexual intimacy.

Good points with 1 Cor 10 and your Pauline language of "Should we continue in sin that grace may abound?" rhetoric. That was good.

So, to be clear, you believe it is literally adultery if a man or woman have a thought of another person, while having intimacy with their spouse, and while faithfully committed to that relationship?

To be clear, others on here are still arguing about role playing. This topic (uncontrolled fantasies of other partners) obviously is something separate.

[Jeffrey]

Am I too cynical to believe the people protesting so loudly about role playing have far worse sexual sin on their hands? Yup, probably just cynicism.

[nahkoe]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

Am I too cynical to believe the people protesting so loudly about role playing have far worse sexual sin on their hands? Yup, probably just cynicism.

I'm confused how we got from porn addicts to roleplaying...

I've been sort of following the thread, but have skimmed most of the long posts. Feel like I missed some shift in the topic somewhere...lol

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by nahkoe

I'm confused how we got from porn addicts to roleplaying...

I've been sort of following the thread, but have skimmed most of the long posts. Feel like I missed some shift in the topic somewhere...lol

lol catch up already!

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

Am I too cynical to believe the people protesting so loudly about role playing have far worse sexual sin on their hands? Yup, probably just cynicism.

Did you consider the possibility that some people may have struggled with things in the past that causes them to avoid certain triggers in the present?

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Did you consider the possibility that some people may have struggled with things in the past that causes them to avoid certain triggers in the present?

In my dealing with people, unfortunately, I've seen the many that were most adamant about people's guilt had secret sin eventually confessed later. I can recall 3 examples of this specifically. Then again, you could also be right. I just think those that struggled and made it through would have more of a cautious, compassionate and merciful tone.

Sex. Gotta love the subject. Always stirs people up hehe