Sex Scenes - Page 13

Socialite · #**121** 07-27-2010, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Timmy

I've heard actors and actresses say it's just acting, and there's too much going on around them -- crew, cameras, lights, etc. -- for there to be any feelings or arousal involved. It's just work, to them.

Yeah. I don't believe them, either!

How many of these actors hook up after being in a movie together? (Brad left his wife, Jennifer, after acting with Angelina in the movie "Mrs. Smith" for example). Yeah... just acting

commonsense · #**122** 07-27-2010, 10:33 AM

I'm offended by the use of bad langauge but many current movies and books use it.
Depending on the quanity I ignore or "fast forward".

Socialite · #**123** 07-27-2010, 10:33 AM

Some responses from other posters. These were responses from another Pentecostal forum (not Oneness Pentecostal):

Katie: In our family, if it isn't something Christ would sit next to you and watch, play, or read, then we don't either. Id rather be called a freak and overprotective than to offend my Lord. At what cost do we engage in such things? It may have a good message but if the language, violence, or other elements are in direct conflict with the Word, why would we want to ingest it? The same message can be found in God's word without the garbage.

Peter Whatsover things are pure and lovely, think on these things

Jake @Peter does the story of Noah drunk in a tent, Lot lying, Sarai "dealing harldy with Hagar," David lusting after Bathsheba, the Shulamite thinking of sexual fantasies before marriage, a Giant getting his head cut off, children having their heads bashed against the wall, Achan's family dying, Dena being raped, the Judges' account of chopping up a body in pieces and sending to each tribe, sodomy, etc... does that sound like "pure and lovely?"

Cathy Is it worth sifting through the dumpster to find your next good meal? Is it worth scraping the mold off of the bread to complete your sandwich? Everything we consume, whether physically or spiritually, has an affect on us. We cannot isol...ate things and deem them harmless! I think we compromise way too much!!! I haven't seen this specific movie, but the thinking is the same: "Well, there is a lot of swearing (nudity, drugs, violence) but the story is so good!" HUH? I always ask myself if I would feel comfortable with Jesus in the seat next to me watching. Of course, that depends on what characteristics may have wrongly been given to Him in one's perception!!!

Joe Who determines what is "mold" or "dumpster diving?" Who decides what is "defilement?" Two people may be born again, Spirit filled believers... one prays and feels released to watch a movie and feels fine about it afterward while the other won't watch it because they prayed and feel it is bad. Who is right? Who heard from the Spirit? Who is Spirit led? These things are not so black and white folks. Let no man judge you in meat or in drink... Col 2:16

Jake Brownies with poop, dumpter diving for nutritious meals... let's get all those analogies out there.

FORUMHOST I personally think those are great analogies and quite relevant.

JAKE @FORUMHOST, I think they are overly-generalized, false-scenarios, not well-thought-out, and trump cards from a separatist's playbook. Sincerely. Both make wide assumptions that overlook the brownie eating and dumpster diving we all do. There...'s a false pretense that with movies we are in a dumpster can, but at the library, grocery store, on the job, in the theater we are not.

Frank I have to say, the Old Testament is much more violent than the Book of Eli. Sometimes, it's hard for me to read.

Amy No, it's not worth it! A friend once told me, "The lowest standard of the current generation becomes the highest standard of the next generation." Hence, the downward spiral of America.

Also, for all you who say that reading the Old Test...ament is just as bad...you men should know better. You are highly visual and stimulated through your senses. So, you're telling me that reading about Rahab the harlot does the same thing to you as watching a steamy scene with some tantalizing woman--seeing her unclothed body, hearing her voice, watching her every seductive move?

Do you think that reading about the wars of Joshua will turn someone to violence the same as watching it performed in graphic detail, with sound and special effects? There are plenty of people who have nightmares after watching movies. Have you ever had a nightmare after reading about David's mighty men? Not to mention, God's Word is Spirit-inspired, and what godless people or demons inspire these movies?
Please don't try to compare watching a movie with reading God's Word!

Socialite · #**124** 07-27-2010, 10:36 AM

Common arguments and issues:

The "if Jesus was next to you" argument.
The "dumpster diving for a nutritious meal" argument.

The concept of cursing, contamination, defilement and being tainted by sin.

The use of Ephesians 5.

The opinion of believers in other nations who see America has overly-entertained and very lukewarm.

commonsense · #**125** 07-27-2010, 10:42 AM

I have seen sheltering backfire. I'm not sure what other factors are involved.

Often, kids totally protected from "the world" can't handle it when they get their first job after high school....AND they hear swearing; hear discussions about "worldy" entertainment etc ----and with NO preparation for such flounder.

I know of 18 yr old girls receiving their first male attention and the next thing you know...pregnant.

Obviously you must gear information to your household and comfort level but total isolation is not good.

Socialite · #**126** 07-27-2010, 10:42 AM

Heather says I don't think it is defiling to watch something violent or that has swear words in it (although I wouldn't recommend making it your daily bread or anything.) But the Bible is FULL of violence and some of it isn't even violence that God was... in favor of - and yet as adults we need to be able to learn about and understand the human condition and our societies condition, and watching movies that demonstrate broken humans behaving in certain ways I think is simply part of relating to our society in a mature way - Watching something sexual I think is different, and can be defiling because it incites you to lust...so when I think of putting nothing evil in front of my eyes I am usually thinking more of the type of thing that actually has the ability to draw me into sin by merely seeing it.

Socialite · #**127** 07-27-2010, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by commonsense

I have seen sheltering backfire. I'm not sure what other factors are involved.

Often, kids totally protected from "the world" can't handle it when they get their first job after high school....AND they hear swearing; hear discussions about "worldy" entertainment etc ----and with NO preparation for such flounder.

I know of 18 yr old girls receiving their first male attention and the next thing you know...pregnant.

Obviously you must gear information to your household and comfort level but total isolation is not good.

Is it possible to be fully isolated in today's world?

Does one need to be a participant in the "worldy entertainment" to be educated and prepared?

ILG · #**128** 07-27-2010, 10:52 AM

I think sex can be like chocolate. It is not good to overeat chocolate so you limit yourself. However, sometimes your brain says "chocolate.....chocolate.....chocolate..." and if you say "No! Bad!" your brain screams louder. Sometimes it is better to just allow yourself some guilt-free chocolate so you don't go nuts and go hog wild laden with guilt later on. Our brains and minds and bodies were built to enjoy things within a fencework. We all need to figure out where the fence lies. However, sometimes when someone outside yourself says the fence is very small when it is, in fact, bigger, you feel guilty when you are inside your own fence but outside theirs.

Socialite · #**129** 07-27-2010, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ILG

I think sex can be like chocolate. It is not good to overeat chocolate so you limit yourself. However, sometimes your brain says "chocolate.....chocolate.....chocolate..." and if you say "No! Bad!" your brain screams louder. Sometimes it is better to just allow yourself some guilt-free chocolate so you don't go nuts and go hog wild laden with guilt later on. Our brains and minds and bodies were built to enjoy things within a fencework. We all need to figure out where the fence lies. However, sometimes when someone outside yourself says the fence is very small when it is, in fact, bigger, you feel guilty when you are inside your own fence but outside theirs.

Very interesting idea.

So the way to overcome something is not to suppress it, but to allow it in moderation?

Does this work with all things?

If I'm at work, and everytime I see the secretary my brain thinks "sex, sex sex" -- what does guilt-free "chocolate" look like here?

If sin really something that if you feed it a little, you will be satisfied or does it constantly want more?

commonsense · #**130** 07-27-2010, 10:57 AM

A bit off topic but .......
We did not have a TV until our children were in high school. (husband had upc lic)

Our son would see tv at the neighbors on occassion.
When we were in a motel or a relatives' home my son was glued to the set.
He watched any and all, nonstop.
Generally those who have tv are able to be a bit more selective.

(mid 30's now and rarely watches tv; movies yes, but very little tv)

Yes, there should be monitering of movies for children; based on age and maturity level.
Discuss questionable content before or during a movie scene to establish your views of proper moral behavior.