Did God use evolution to create life

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by coadie

Give us a reason to take your assertions literally.


Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

They make up that death was around but not really death death.

You haven't answered or responded to a single thing I've said since last night, Ninny.

The question about the composition of the Bible's creation accounts that Jason asked is fair - if asked by anyone else but you. Why don't you respond to last night's "three chambered heart" debacle? You really muffed that one.

With your "Ivy League" studies in genetics (as you claimed to have but cannot prove) you should have immediately known about the expression of the gene that determines whether a heart will be amphibian or mammalian - or something in between like a reptilian heart structure.

... but you don't have a clue about a thing related to genetics other than that it's a word to be thrown around. You're just another of a long line of "Young Earth Creationist" frauds that have plagued the church since Henry Morris invented the deceit back in the 1960s.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

Pel, I wasn't trying to tell you what you believe. I was asking WHY you believe in the literal account of the creation of Adam and Eve, yet don't take the creation account as literal. I don't think you can seperate them.

Am I understanding you correctly that you believe the creation account is not original to Genesis but was put in AFTER the Babylonian Captivity? Therefore it is not part of Moses' writings, but an interpolation to the Hebrew scriptures?!

When they say this is not intended to be taken litterally, they are actually saying God did Not say what it says he said and it really Was not so!


3And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

4And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

5And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

6And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

7And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

8And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

9And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

13And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

14And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

15And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

God cursded the ground and after the flood and Noahs sacrifiice, God removes the curse on the ground.
When folks start slicing out inconvenient scriptures, most aren't smart enough to know that they have to take out other verses also.

Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;


20And Noah builded an altar unto the LORD; and took of every clean beast, and of every clean fowl, and offered burnt offerings on the altar.

21And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.

22While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.

I can't find an evolutionist that believe the biblical account of the flood.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by coadie

Give us a reason to take your assertions literally.


Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

They make up that death was around but not really death death.

You haven't answered or responded to a single thing I've said since last night, Ninny.

The question about the composition of the Bible's creation accounts that Jason asked is fair - if asked by anyone else but you. Why don't you respond to last night's "three chambered heart" debacle? You really muffed that one.

With your "Ivy League" studies in genetics (as you claimed to have but cannot prove) you should have immediately known about the expression of the gene that determines whether a heart will be amphibian or mammalian - or something in between like a reptilian heart structure.

... but you don't have a clue about a thing related to genetics other than that it's a word to be thrown around. You're just another of a long line of "Young Earth Creationist" frauds that have plagued the church since Henry Morris invented the deceit back in the 1960s.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by pelathais

You haven't answered or responded to a single thing I've said since last night, Ninny.

The question about the composition of the Bible's creation accounts that Jason asked is fair - if asked by anyone else. Why don't you respond to last night's "three chambered heart" debacle? You really muffed that one.

With your "Ivy League" studies in genetics (as you claimed to have but cannot prove) you should have immediately known about the expression of the gene that determines whether a heart will be amphibian or mammalian - or something in between like a reptilian heart structure.

... but you don't have a clue about thing related to genetics other than that it's a word to be thrown around. You're just another of a long line of "Young Earth Creationist" frauds that have plagued the church since Henry Morris invented the deceit back in the 1960s.

Wow
You are extremely defensive about the change of a 3 chambered heart into a 4 chamber model.
No proof? No evidence?

Just a fairy tale?

The reptile lung, with its bidirectional air flow, could not have evolved into the bird lung with its unidirectional flow, because it is not possible for there to have been an intermediate model between them.

Breath taking.When you get a secular education, they leave a lot to the imagination.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by pelathais

You haven't answered or responded to a single thing I've said since last night, Ninny.

The question about the composition of the Bible's creation accounts that Jason asked is fair - if asked by anyone else but you. Why don't you respond to last night's "three chambered heart" debacle? You really muffed that one.

With your "Ivy League" studies in genetics (as you claimed to have but cannot prove) you should have immediately known about the expression of the gene that determines whether a heart will be amphibian or mammalian - or something in between like a reptilian heart structure.

... but you don't have a clue about a thing related to genetics other than that it's a word to be thrown around. You're just another of a long line of "Young Earth Creationist" frauds that have plagued the church since Henry Morris invented the deceit back in the 1960s.

Plagued the church? Can you name churches that have this Plague and describe it? Be specific. Are the Christian colleges and universities that teach biblical creation also falling under this "plague"?

Who is Henry Morris?
Are the churches that taught the Creation chapters in Genesis as they were written also under the plagues or curses before Darwin and the biological enlightenment?

[BroGary]

Originally Posted by coadie

Isn't it hilarious how superstitious people think animals have spirits and change?

Cat-fish, bull-frogs and a few others are "transitional" species.

That brings up another excellent point showing how silly it is to think that God created man thru evolution, unlike the animals, God created man with an eternal soul that has a conscience, to know right from wrong and not just act on mere instinct like the wild animals do.

[pastor febus]

I could not help but see this very interesting conversation. We are having one just like it at "heaven and earth"thread. I am glad that there is finally somone questioning the young earth motif in this apostolic setting.
I personally do not believe that Genesis1 is a literal rendering of Creation. It is prophetic/Covenantal. Look at Genesis 2:1-4 that is the summary of the creation of heaven and earth. The content of the passages point to the creation of:
1. hosts (multitudes,armies)
2. Generations (birthings,people)
Heaven and earth are Gods covenant people.
The same writer (Moses) who penned, in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Also adressed Israel and saideu 32:1 Give ear, O ye heavens, and I will speak; and hear, O earth, the words of my mouth.
I think he knew what he was doing.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by coadie

Plagued the church? Can you name churches that have this Plague and describe it? Be specific. Are the Christian colleges and universities that teach biblical creation also falling under this "plague"?

Who is Henry Morris?
Are the churches that taught the Creation chapters in Genesis as they were written also under the plagues or curses before Darwin and the biological enlightenment?

First go back and respond to:

http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/sho...1&postcount=27

http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/sho...3&postcount=29

"I've got a better question for you, though. Just where are those "foundations of the earth?" Literally, where are they?" from http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/sho...7&postcount=43

http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/sho...2&postcount=45

Then why don't you take the "Transitional Fossil Challenge" and refute even just a few on this list you ignored?

http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/sho...0&postcount=84

And then finally, prove to us that you have taken "3 graduate classes in genetics from an Ivy League school" as you claimed.

http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/sho...gue#post953995

What school? Who were your instructors? What were the courses? What texts were you required to use? Prove it.

Really dude, you come across like such a hick fraud that it's no wonder you have trouble keeping from being banned on the boards where you post. Answer the questions, back up your assertions (above) and then we can move on.

[Norman]

Does the Bible really say that God only created two people?

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by BroGary

That brings up another excellent point showing how silly it is to think that God created man thru evolution, unlike the animals, God created man with an eternal soul that has a conscience, to know right from wrong and not just act on mere instinct like the wild animals do.

Yes. At some point in time God "breathed" into the man that had been formed from the elements of the earth and that man "became a living soul." That man was also the ancestor of us all (Genesis 2:7).