Why don't we see healings?

[AreYouReady?]

Well...the Bible does say that we all have an appointed time to die...

I haven't met any 6000-year-old people yet.

[Cindy]

Maybe we are looking in the wrong places.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

Well...the Bible does say that we all have an appointed time to die...

I haven't met any 6000-year-old people yet.

I don't know. There may be a few walking among us.

[commonsense]

A bit simplistic perhaps........but we're healed due to faith.

Faith faith faith
Lots of songs written about it.


Many years ago I read a book by Pat Boone. ( not to say I agree with any of his stand on things then or now )
He relates an account of a friend of the family (daughters' friend) who was injured at their home. He prayed for her, and she was healed.
I remember wondering why we didn't see that at our services/churches (UPC).

My thoughts........we give too many requirements. It doesn't build FAITH.

[Dordrecht]

Lazarus had no faith, he was dead.

[Lafon]

I am a firm believer in the immutability of God's written Word. I am irrevocably persuaded to believe that it "says exactly what it means and means exactly what it says," and this without exception whatsoever!

"And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing ALL manner of sickness and ALL manner of disease among the people." ~ Matthew 4:23

"And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal ALL manner of sickness and ALL manner of disease." ~ Matthew 10:1

God NEVER changes; and neither has He ever withdrawn that "power" which He has commanded that His disciples exercise over/against "ALL manner of sickness and ALL manner of disease among the people."

Come on brethren! Let's "Talk Turkey" here for a moment, shall we?

Where is the faith a disciple of Jesus Christ is supposed to possess and exercise in the promises of God being displayed in all of this discussion?

Perhaps I am being somewhat overly sensitive, and if so, then I believe the cause for it can be found in its apparent absence in the many things expressed about this important element of the spiritual life of the Church that is present in the earth today. (Now that is my opinion, and others are free to agree or disagree... I'm not endeavoring to cram my beliefs into others, but only tender them for careful consideration of their merits.)

When Christ Jesus was present upon the earth, the "power" of God to "heal ALL manner of sickness and ALL manner of disease" was resident in this ONE man. However, when He ascended to His throne in the heavens, He gave that SAME "power" to dwell in (and to be operative through) us by means of the baptism of the Holy Ghost. Presently, instead of ONE man possessing and exercising ALL of the "power" of God (as the manner was with our Lord Jesus Christ), "...ALL these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will" (i.e., chooses).

In writing of the manner in which the "power" of God is operative in the earth today through the "Spirit" which resides in His chosen people (for WE are now His physical "body" that is present in the earth ~ see Ephesians 1:22-23), our beloved renown brother Paul was inspired of God to describe the manner in which each part of this "body" has been designed of God to operate:

"But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; to another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gift of healing by the same Spirit; to another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:.." ~ I Corinthians 12:7-10

I am left to wonder how many of my brethren have paused to give serious consideration to which of these wondrous "spiritual gifts" they have been granted of God to possess and exercise. None of us have been granted the privilege of possessing ALL of them, however, we EACH have been granted the privilege of possessing and exercising "severally as he will."

One might question why it is that a particular saint has even laid hands on another and prayed that they be healed of some type of sickness or disease, and yet it didn't happen, therefore it must have been that such healing was not "according to his (God's) will" that this be done for that person. But this is NOT true! Perhaps it is that the saint who did the praying has not been granted the "power" to exercise such because they don't possess the "spiritual gift" of healing (albeit they have been given to possess several of the others which Paul enumerated).

There exists much more that I could state about this matter, but suffice it to be said that these are just a sampling of my beliefs about this matter. I pray that all who occasion to read them will give them prayerful consideration. If it can be proven (by the scriptural record) that my beliefs are amiss, then please tell me for I desire to be corrected.

[Lafon]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

You reckon Paul prayed for Timotheus? He left him sick at Miletum.

Bro Epley, while I cannot but agree that the apostle Paul, in the words of II Timothy 4:20, explicitly asserts he had left Trophimus sick at Miletum, however, I believe it is quite out of order or pretentious for one to conclude that he had not prayed for his healing, or that he had done so and God had not taken heed and healed Trophimus.

Sadly, your “assumption” surmises that God must have withdrawn the “spiritual gift” of healing from Paul, for the scriptural record itself is replete of many instances which evidence that he possessed, and exercised this wondrous “gift.”

In summation, I feel compelled to state unequivocally that I do NOT “reckon” that Paul had prayed for Trophimus’ healing, for had he done so then I am persuaded to believe that it would have happened.

You may agree or disagree with this (the decision, of course, is yours).

[Lafon]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

It should be noted that Paul suffered what is said to be vision problems for the rest of his life, and was not healed in Scripture. More notably, this story is included in Scripture for a witness. You could hardly question his faith, and yet he was not healed.

Where is it found written in the Scriptures, explicitly asserting that Paul "suffered what is said to be vision problems for the rest of his life, and was not healed"? Is this conclusion not an "assumption" on your part rather than a factual statement of the Scriptures?

[Lafon]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

Lafon, if I remember correctly from prior discussion, you believe it is always the will of God to be healed, except for the sickness which is unto death. Does that correctly state your position?

Hoovie, in the broader general sense, your rememberance is "Spot on!"

An expanded explanation would consume much more time than I have available to tender for your consideration presently... perhaps later, if the Lord be willing. I only have a short period in the mornings to visit here for an extended period so I have to restrict my comments accordingly. I pray that you understand.

[Lafon]

Originally Posted by commonsense

A bit simplistic perhaps........but we're healed due to faith.

Faith faith faith
Lots of songs written about it.


Many years ago I read a book by Pat Boone. ( not to say I agree with any of his stand on things then or now )
He relates an account of a friend of the family (daughters' friend) who was injured at their home. He prayed for her, and she was healed.
I remember wondering why we didn't see that at our services/churches (UPC).

My thoughts........we give too many requirements. It doesn't build FAITH.

A hearty AMEN!

"But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him."