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Old 06-23-2014, 01:19 PM
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This entire Thread is living proof that Religion is a fallacy full of lies, leading people to the bondage of unnatural Laws and arguments that never end. If someone doesn't agree with a particular method of Baptism, they are lost and going to burn in a lake of fire for eternity.

Please, folks, wake up and see the irony of this isolated theory that simply cannot be proven. This type of Theology is wrestled by the mentally challenged who live in the past, where the premise of an idea is based upon unseen, unproven, and illiterate experiences.

In the end, this is why Religion gives the insane a platform, where they can trumpet nothing but deceit and self righteous dogmas that center upon a few who think they've figured it all out. Sad.

If we truly believe in the mercy that seems to be present in Scripture, God can save a man who has NEVER been baptized, NEVER been to Church, and has NEVER agreed with Man and his Religion.

This thread was a "yes i do" "no I dont" accounting of the members of the forum. until YOU came along with a gallon of gas and a torch and did violence to the peacful little thread.


talk about hypocrisy.

YOU are the one that devolved this thread and now you run off on a tantrum about how OPs are haters?

the only person here depicting the kind of vitriol you are pointing at other is YOU the advocate of abandoning religion.


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This thread was a "yes i do" "no I dont" accounting of the members of the forum. until YOU came along with a gallon of gas and a torch and did violence to the peacful little thread.


talk about hypocrisy.

YOU are the one that devolved this thread and now you run off on a tantrum about how OPs are haters?

the only person here depicting the kind of vitriol you are pointing at other is YOU the advocate of abandoning religion.


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Peaceful little Thread?

Ferd, you need to take a little trip to the Middle East, where this all started. This is the most violent and volatile area on our Planet, where people are slaughtering each other in the name of Religion.

This is the problem with most American Christians: They see through the corrupted lens of our Culture, where we go to Church on Sunday and become God's friend if we'll follow a certain Tradition or Teaching. ALL Religions in the World do this in one form or another!

Don't forget, Ferd, Jesus Christ was murdered by the Religious. He made them furious, calling them blind hypocrites, full of dead men's bones, even though they were the most well versed in Scripture. In the United States, we have made Jesus into a United States figure, based upon a Sunday School message, a coloring book, or the latest movie.

When the Thief of the cross was pardoned, no Religion on Earth was there to appease his death bed confession. A man sought for mercy, and mercy was given. But to you "Know it All's", you would be trying to yank him off of the cross for a quick baptism, then you would scream in his face until he spoke in tongues.

Religion is the bondage of holding mercy to yourself.
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Old 06-24-2014, 12:27 PM
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Peaceful little Thread?

Ferd, you need to take a little trip to the Middle East, where this all started. This is the most violent and volatile area on our Planet, where people are slaughtering each other in the name of Religion.

This is the problem with most American Christians: They see through the corrupted lens of our Culture, where we go to Church on Sunday and become God's friend if we'll follow a certain Tradition or Teaching. ALL Religions in the World do this in one form or another!

Don't forget, Ferd, Jesus Christ was murdered by the Religious. He made them furious, calling them blind hypocrites, full of dead men's bones, even though they were the most well versed in Scripture. In the United States, we have made Jesus into a United States figure, based upon a Sunday School message, a coloring book, or the latest movie.

When the Thief of the cross was pardoned, no Religion on Earth was there to appease his death bed confession. A man sought for mercy, and mercy was given. But to you "Know it All's", you would be trying to yank him off of the cross for a quick baptism, then you would scream in his face until he spoke in tongues.

Religion is the bondage of holding mercy to yourself.
quit changing the subject dude.

YOU tossed a molotov coctail into a room full of OPs then decry the OPs for getting on your case.

Frankly the middle east has nothing to do with this thread. the only thing the middle east has to do with anything here is your attempt to use it to deflect from your hypocracy.
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Old 06-24-2014, 12:42 PM
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quit changing the subject dude.

YOU tossed a molotov coctail into a room full of OPs then decry the OPs for getting on your case.

Frankly the middle east has nothing to do with this thread. the only thing the middle east has to do with anything here is your attempt to use it to deflect from your hypocracy.
Exactly what Jesus did!! You know, when he went to Church and did a little "Table Flipping" with a little whip to add to the cocktail!

The Middle East has plenty to do with this subject. It's where your Religion came from.
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This entire Thread is living proof that Religion is a fallacy full of lies, leading people to the bondage of unnatural Laws and arguments that never end. If someone doesn't agree with a particular method of Baptism, they are lost and going to burn in a lake of fire for eternity.

Please, folks, wake up and see the irony of this isolated theory that simply cannot be proven. This type of Theology is wrestled by the mentally challenged who live in the past, where the premise of an idea is based upon unseen, unproven, and illiterate experiences.

In the end, this is why Religion gives the insane a platform, where they can trumpet nothing but deceit and self righteous dogmas that center upon a few who think they've figured it all out. Sad.

If we truly believe in the mercy that seems to be present in Scripture, God can save a man who has NEVER been baptized, NEVER been to Church, and has NEVER agreed with Man and his Religion.
And that, dear misguided soul, is a flat out lie.

Whatever tangent you have went on, after you left pentecost, it has destroyed you.

Carry on.
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Old 06-23-2014, 04:59 PM
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amen. Ty, God, that i moved enough to never have the horror stories i have heard. I see now that this gave me a sense of independence that must have been palpable, as i was never subjected to any of that, and all of my even Apo/Pent experiences were positive ones. Surely that is the norm.
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And that, dear misguided soul, is a flat out lie.

Whatever tangent you have went on, after you left pentecost, it has destroyed you.

Carry on.
we have more than one parable that agrees with him; yours seems the misdirected post. I know they stay away from these in divinity school--just as i know that no preacher on this forum is likely to tell a prospective convert "Count the cost," let alone "Every inch of skin will be stripped from you"--but you might do yourself a favor and at least not "lie" to us yourself, when you do not know. See that it is you who might have been deceived; admit you learned all you know from some "Dr of Divinity" or whatever. Are you not aware of the Scriptures about 'men of letters?' Those who cannot do, teach!

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amen. Ty, God, that i moved enough to never have the horror stories i have heard. I see now that this gave me a sense of independence that must have been palpable, as i was never subjected to any of that, and all of my even Apo/Pent experiences were positive ones. Surely that is the norm.
we have more than one parable that agrees with him; yours seems the misdirected post. I know they stay away from these in divinity school--just as i know that no preacher on this forum is likely to tell a prospective convert "Count the cost," let alone "Every inch of skin will be stripped from you"--but you might do yourself a favor and at least not "lie" to us yourself, when you do not know. See that it is you who might have been deceived; admit you learned all you know from some "Dr of Divinity" or whatever. Are you not aware of the Scriptures about 'men of letters?' Those who cannot do, teach!
The reply to the out and out lie that I bolded is not a misguided post. He had moved almost into universalism. That is a lying doctrine.

So go back and read the post I highlighted and you will get a better picture of why I said what I said.
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And that, dear misguided soul, is a flat out lie.

Whatever tangent you have went on, after you left pentecost, it has destroyed you.

Carry on.
It is? Give me an example. So, when does God mercy apply to someone? Go ahead and tell us. The exact moment.

If you can't tell me, specifically, then your doctrine is not valid or even truth.

No offense, but I've been delivered, not destroyed. Lies only carry us into Religion, where God is our Friend, and not the Friend of others.
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nice to see at least two people around here still have some sense
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How many of y'all attend an Apostolic church? By that I mean they teach Jesus is the ONE person of the Godhead and baptize in Jesus Name and believe the Holy Ghost baptism with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues? Just wondering?
I do. And my Pastor teaches holiness standards and lives them before us.
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