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Re: Chris reed joins the ministry elite
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The fig tree in Luke 13 represents Jerusalem.
The tree of knowledge of good and evil symbolizes man’s free will to decide whether to follow Gods word or their own.
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Yes, Just because you have a heritage or tradition doesn't mean you have a relationship. It still takes choice, faith, repentance, obedience and relationship, and this manifests in fruit.
Luke 3:7-9 KJV
7 Then said he to the multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
8 Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
9 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
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09-08-2024, 02:32 PM
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Re: Chris reed joins the ministry elite
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The fig tree in Luke 13 represents Jerusalem.
The tree of knowledge of good and evil symbolizes man’s free will to decide whether to follow Gods word or their own.
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So, the tree of life is no freewill?
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09-08-2024, 05:50 PM
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A mature Spirit filled believer manifesting the gifts and fruit of the Spirit is a tree of life.
Proverbs 3:18 - She [Wisdom] is a tree of life to those who lay hold of her; those who hold her fast are called blessed.
Proverbs 11:30 - The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life, and whoever captures souls is wise.
Proverbs 13:12 - Hope deferred makes the heart sick, but a desire fulfilled is a tree of life.
Proverbs 15:4 - A gentle tongue is a tree of life, but perverseness in it breaks the spirit.
Psalm 1:3 - He is like a tree planted by streams of water that yields its fruit in its season, and its leaf does not wither. In all that he does, he prospers.
Revelation 22:2 - through the middle of the street of the city; also, on either side of the river, the tree of life with its twelve kinds of fruit, yielding its fruit each month. The leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
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a mature spirit filled believer manifesting the gifts and fruit of the spirit is a tree of life.
Proverbs 3:18 - she [wisdom] is a tree of life to those who lay hold of her; those who hold her fast are called blessed.
Proverbs 11:30 - the fruit of the righteous is a tree of life, and whoever captures souls is wise.
Proverbs 13:12 - hope deferred makes the heart sick, but a desire fulfilled is like a tree of life.
Proverbs 15:4 - a gentle tongue is a tree of life, but perverseness in it breaks the spirit.
Psalm 1:3 - he is like a tree planted by streams of water that yields its fruit in its season, and its leaf does not wither. In all that he does, he prospers.
Revelation 22:2 - through the middle of the street of the city; also, on either side of the river, the tree of life with its twelve kinds of fruit, yielding its fruit each month. The leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
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So, the tree of life is no freewill?
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I'm sorry, just trying to clarify.
Are you asking if the tree of life has free will?
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Yes, Just because you have a heritage or tradition doesn't mean you have a relationship. It still takes choice, faith, repentance, obedience and relationship, and this manifests in fruit......
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I agree, a believer must show fruits.
Had an old timer that used to say, the proof is in the pudding....
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I'm sorry, just trying to clarify.
Are you asking if the tree of life has free will?
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You posted the tree of knowledge of good and evil symbolizes man’s free will to decide whether to follow Gods word or their own. If this is the case, do you believe the tree of life is the opposite? Another thing, where do you find in scripture that the tree of knowledge of good and evil symbolizes man’s free will to decide whether to follow Gods word or their own? Why were fig leaves used in covering Adam and Eve?
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Could the tree of the knowledge of good and evil symbolizes the works of the flesh which result in death
And the tree of life the fruit of the Spirit which results in life
And the leaves, if in revelation 22 the leaves are for the healing of the Nations does that relate to them being covered by leaves in the garden?
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Could the tree of the knowledge of good and evil symbolizes the works of the flesh which result in death
And the tree of life the fruit of the Spirit which results in life
And the leaves, if in revelation 22 the leaves are for the healing of the Nations does that relate to them being covered by leaves in the garden?
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They weren’t covered by just any leaves. The writer wanted to point out that they were only covered in the leaves of the fig tree. Yet, they only covered their lower parts. The knowledge of good and evil. Adam and Eve did the bare minimum. What was the knowledge of good and evil which didn’t bring fruit to eternal life?
Galatians 3:21
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*The fig tree represents the Bride
*Who broke the covenant relationship with God through disobeying His commandment
*Who tried to establish her own righteousness by covering with fig leaves instead of by faithful obedience
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