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06-08-2008, 07:41 AM
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Re: UPC pastor's wife refuses to wear hair up anym
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
A column from the Hartford Courant:
Religions that require a special costume for the rank and file have always given me pause. I'm not talking about the high priests, the organizational inner sanctum. I'm talking about the regular people. A friend of mine calls it the Funny Hat Club.
I guess that's one reason why I'm a Protestant Christian. We dress goofy because we feel like it, not because we'll be closer to God. If you believe like the Catholics that God is everywhere, then you have to believe that God can see through your clothes anyway.
to read the rest of the article: http://blogs.courant.com/bob_engleha...l-24-2008.html
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NOOOOOOOOOO Now I am gonna feel nekkid all the time and that AINT good!!!! Its all your fault (sorry I know thats not where this was meant to go but couldnt hep it! )
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06-08-2008, 09:23 AM
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Re: UPC pastor's wife refuses to wear hair up anym
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
A column from the Hartford Courant:
Religions that require a special costume for the rank and file have always given me pause. I'm not talking about the high priests, the organizational inner sanctum. I'm talking about the regular people. A friend of mine calls it the Funny Hat Club.
I guess that's one reason why I'm a Protestant Christian. We dress goofy because we feel like it, not because we'll be closer to God. If you believe like the Catholics that God is everywhere, then you have to believe that God can see through your clothes anyway.
to read the rest of the article: http://blogs.courant.com/bob_engleha...l-24-2008.html
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Thanks for the article, I liked this statement I agree: Fact is, the most holy and religious regular people I know wouldn't stand out in a crowd. You wouldn't know their godliness until they opened their mouths.
I believe the very soul of us is our words... From the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh...
In the beginning was the Word, The Word became flesh...
When that Word "dwells" in or governs us... everyone should know by our words and actions that goes forth who we belong to.
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06-08-2008, 01:49 PM
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Re: UPC pastor's wife refuses to wear hair up anym
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Thanks for the article, I liked this statement I agree: Fact is, the most holy and religious regular people I know wouldn't stand out in a crowd. You wouldn't know their godliness until they opened their mouths.
I believe the very soul of us is our words... From the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh...
In the beginning was the Word, The Word became flesh...
When that Word "dwells" in or governs us... everyone should know by our words and actions that goes forth who we belong to.
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I tried to post the cartoon, but couldn't figure out how, so I posted the column with it. It's another point of view.
But he made an interesting point on those who dress a certain way because of religious beliefs makes them stand out in the crowd (he used a Muslim woman's comments) and how being invisible is sometimes better!!! I think the general population doesn't notice regularly dressed people unless they wear too little or too much.
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06-08-2008, 01:59 PM
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Re: UPC pastor's wife refuses to wear hair up anym
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Originally Posted by ForeverBlessed
Thanks for the article, I liked this statement I agree: Fact is, the most holy and religious regular people I know wouldn't stand out in a crowd. You wouldn't know their godliness until they opened their mouths.
I believe the very soul of us is our words... From the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh...
In the beginning was the Word, The Word became flesh...
When that Word "dwells" in or governs us... everyone should know by our words and actions that goes forth who we belong to.
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Very good, Sis. Lisa, very good words!
Whether we like it or not, what comes from within us, (words,
expressions) reflect what we really are.
Blessings,
Falla39
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06-08-2008, 02:04 PM
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Re: UPC pastor's wife refuses to wear hair up anym
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Originally Posted by ForeverBlessed
Thanks for the article, I liked this statement I agree: Fact is, the most holy and religious regular people I know wouldn't stand out in a crowd. You wouldn't know their godliness until they opened their mouths.
I believe the very soul of us is our words... From the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh...
In the beginning was the Word, The Word became flesh...
When that Word "dwells" in or governs us... everyone should know by our words and actions that goes forth who we belong to.
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06-08-2008, 08:01 AM
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Re: UPC pastor's wife refuses to wear hair up anym
u know, i find it funny that some (like flds cult) and some upc even  are of the mindset that the more conservative your appearance, the more holy you are inside. i'm thinking of the muslims over in the mid east where all you see are eyes...or maybe nuns of the rcc. both extremely modest/conservative and lost as lost can be. not saying it wouldn't matter if we parade around in bikinis, but if our goal everyday is to look as "pentecostal" as possible, then we've missed the boat. i try to just look like a christian...not a pentecostal.
i hate that the term "worldly" is always associated with the outward. true, we shouldn't be consumed with looking like hollywood, but if your heart is of stone, you are judgemental, a gossip, a liar, etc. then it doesn't matter if you have hair to your knees, you are being worldly. or girls that don't wear a stitch of makeup, never cut their hair, but will spend HOURS findinig the right outfit and doing their hair for youth camp. they have devoted more time to vanity than the 5 min it takes to put on a little makeup. it just doesn't make sense to me sometimes.
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08-20-2017, 03:26 PM
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Re: UPC pastor's wife refuses to wear hair up anym
It was interesting to read through all the posts on here. I admire the pastor's wife. She saw that something she was doing was associating her with evil and she did something about it. I think that's admirable.
Down through the years, if we live long enough, part of what we believe will be fashionable. People will be wearing long skirts and long loose hair and long sleeves. The fashion industry has to keep on changing or it wouldn't be the multimillion-dollar industry that it is. So I don't think it's any bad thing to be stylish - at some point we are bound to be the "in" thing.
As for "magic hair", I know mine isn't magic or it wouldn't tangle and give me so much trouble when I wash it. I think it's foolish to believe that if we do what we're supposed to that it gives us any kind of special powers. I know that some of you don't believe in long hair or the standards, and that's fine by me. But like that pastor's wife, I think we should all have some personal standards at least.
Maybe this will surprise a lot of people, but I don't think up hairdos are modest. At least for me. They may be fine for other people, but I feel so uncomfortable with my neck and ears all exposed like that. But then I am a convert and I'd never worn my hair up before I joined the UPC. That was considered a hairdo for evening at the time. Well now, I just lied - I was known to wear a ponytail on the playground when I was a little girl.
Still, I admire the pastor's wife for having the courage of her convictions and wanting to avoid the appearance of evil. Maybe when the FLDS are out of the news, we can all relax a little bit.
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08-21-2017, 03:27 PM
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Re: UPC pastor's wife refuses to wear hair up anym
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Originally Posted by Jenny
It was interesting to read through all the posts on here. I admire the pastor's wife. She saw that something she was doing was associating her with evil and she did something about it. I think that's admirable.
Down through the years, if we live long enough, part of what we believe will be fashionable. People will be wearing long skirts and long loose hair and long sleeves. The fashion industry has to keep on changing or it wouldn't be the multimillion-dollar industry that it is. So I don't think it's any bad thing to be stylish - at some point we are bound to be the "in" thing.
As for "magic hair", I know mine isn't magic or it wouldn't tangle and give me so much trouble when I wash it. I think it's foolish to believe that if we do what we're supposed to that it gives us any kind of special powers. I know that some of you don't believe in long hair or the standards, and that's fine by me. But like that pastor's wife, I think we should all have some personal standards at least.
Maybe this will surprise a lot of people, but I don't think up hairdos are modest. At least for me. They may be fine for other people, but I feel so uncomfortable with my neck and ears all exposed like that. But then I am a convert and I'd never worn my hair up before I joined the UPC. That was considered a hairdo for evening at the time. Well now, I just lied - I was known to wear a ponytail on the playground when I was a little girl.
Still, I admire the pastor's wife for having the courage of her convictions and wanting to avoid the appearance of evil. Maybe when the FLDS are out of the news, we can all relax a little bit.
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Jenny,
I hope you realize you posted on a 9 year old thread? Good to see you posting though!
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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08-22-2017, 09:28 AM
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Re: UPC pastor's wife refuses to wear hair up anym
This forum is almost old enough to start putting some of those old threads in a "classic section" for viewing.
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08-24-2017, 12:56 PM
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Re: UPC pastor's wife refuses to wear hair up anym
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Jenny,
I hope you realize you posted on a 9 year old thread? Good to see you posting though!
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I'm not very good at this. How do I tell when a thread is too old to post to? Do I go by the date of the first post or the date of the last post? Thanks for pointing this out to me. I'll pay more attention next time.
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