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Re: What Would You Say?
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He feels that it is inevitable that it will happen, and he wants advice how to be proactive or reactive.
I told him to chill!  They will probably not give his family a problem with just attending. He understands that they can never be used in leadership. He is OK with that...I think! |
That is key. Not many of us would want to be in a church where we might be for a long time (10/20/30 years?) but knowing we wont be able to be used or develop our God given ministry in that church.
(That's not good for them, nor for the Kingdom of God)
That's an angle they have to seriously consider before they commit to this church.
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07-30-2008, 06:15 PM
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Re: What Would You Say?
haha....sorry i was trying to kill 2 birds with one stone by answering most of the questions i read in the thread at once...ill break it up tull
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07-30-2008, 06:15 PM
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Re: What Would You Say?
Isn't this the church that Rhoni went into temporary "bundage" at?
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
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07-30-2008, 06:21 PM
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Re: What Would You Say?
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Isn't this the church that Rhoni went into temporary "bundage" at?
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Yes, and if PO was here she'd   you!
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07-30-2008, 06:46 PM
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Re: What Would You Say?
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Yes, and if PO was here she'd you! |
So you are saying PO would be...er.....never mind. 
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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07-30-2008, 06:50 PM
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Re: What Would You Say?
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I had a good friend that moved from Nashville to Florida a few years ago. He is an anesthesiologist, and his family has been looking for a good Apostolic church. He was raised Apostolic and attended Christ Church while in Nashville.
He called me a few days ago and told me that they found an Apostolic church that runs about 300-400 people. The church is not UPC and from what he explained to me, is ultra-con.
They really enjoy the services, and his children are getting involved and have made some good friends there.
The problem is that his wife wears pants and see nothings wrong with it at all. He hopes that someone doesn't approach his wife about it, because she is very strong in her opinion about it! She wears dresses to church, but that is the only time she does. It hasn't become an issue yet, but he feels that soon it may be an issue. He called to ask what he should do!
What would you tell him?
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Let it go until it does become an issue... MEANWHILE support the church and be friendly and pay big bucks in tithe and offerings!
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07-30-2008, 06:52 PM
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Re: What Would You Say?
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That is key. Not many of us would want to be in a church where we might be for a long time (10/20/30 years?) but knowing we wont be able to be used or develop our God given ministry in that church.
(That's not good for them, nor for the Kingdom of God)
That's an angle they have to seriously consider before they commit to this church.
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Seems like this assumes God mostly uses people to teach a class or stand behind the pulpit or choir etc.
I think most people's primary ministry is not (or should not be) a church ministry.
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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07-30-2008, 06:59 PM
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Re: What Would You Say?
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Originally Posted by Pianoman
He feels that it is inevitable that it will happen, and he wants advice how to be proactive or reactive.
I told him to chill! They will probably not give his family a problem with just attending. He understands that they can never be used in leadership. He is OK with that...I think! |
Ya know what and I know this thread has progressed a lot since this post but I wanted to make a comment as I am reading from the beginning of this one.. PM... We had a family in our church in okc that felt the exact same way. She never said a word to the pastor... finally after 3 yrs her husband went to the pastor and told him and the pastor told him that it was between her and God and he couldnt do nothing about it but he wouldnt have her participate in anything but just attend as was exactly mentioned here and that is what they continued to do.
However another thing is and I am not saying its right or wrong but I have been mostly in large churches all of my life... Now my given church the exception because our pastor really gets out and gets to know his saints even tho he has over 1000 of us he knows everyone by name but..... I have been to other upc and apostolic churches and they have never ever said things to certain members of their churches who do these things... so I dont think this Bro really has anything to worry about
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07-30-2008, 07:00 PM
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Re: What Would You Say?
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
Seems like this assumes God mostly uses people to teach a class or stand behind the pulpit or choir etc.
I think most people's primary ministry is not (or should not be) a church ministry.
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No such thing is being assumed. You're presuming I meant that.
But what if he is called to preaching/teaching ministry or music ministry? Then it would be significant that the pastor might have him just sit there because he refuses to use him. And their giftings could include Sunday school, cell-group ministry, home bible study ministry, etc for both him and her.
If the church just takes these people's tithes, but wont let them develop their God-given gifts as part of the church body, that is a problem.
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Daniel 12:3 And those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the firmament; and those who turn many to righteousness, like the stars for ever.
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07-30-2008, 07:36 PM
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Re: What Would You Say?
Good Point! Why go to a church if eventually it will outgrow you or vice versa...eventually the rubber will meet the road one way or the other.
That being said, I think your friend needs to figure that out for himself. Obviously he's an intelligent individual who can reason things out...it'll eventually become clearer and clearer...
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