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12-28-2016, 01:56 PM
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Re: Is footwashing a heaven or hell issue?
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Brethren once again, I bring this to your remembrance of what our Lord declared,
John 13:13
Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for so I am. If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another's feet. For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you. Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him. If ye know these things, happy are ye if ye do them.
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Who are these statements being directed to? The twelve. These were instructions concerning how they were to serve one another. Sadly, we've turned it into a sacramental foot-bath.... and forget that the entire point wasn't to wash feet.... but that believers should serve one another.
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12-28-2016, 02:04 PM
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Re: Is footwashing a heaven or hell issue?
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Who are these statements being directed to? The twelve. These were instructions concerning how they were to serve one another. Sadly, we've turned it into a sacramental foot-bath.... and forget that the entire point wasn't to wash feet.... but that believers should serve one another.
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I've always said, if you have a problem with washing feet, you have other problems more than washing feet.
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12-28-2016, 02:22 PM
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Re: Is footwashing a heaven or hell issue?
It is funny how many keep the observance of Christmas, but something the Bible actually gives details isn't necessary. Christmas is non-biblical but footwashing is biblical.
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12-28-2016, 02:23 PM
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Re: Is footwashing a heaven or hell issue?
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I've always said, if you have a problem with washing feet, you have other problems more than washing feet.
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I sure do, and Odor Eaters isn't doing the trick.
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Sometimes hidden dangers spring on us suddenly. Those are out of our control. But when one can see the danger, and then refuses to arrest , all in the name of "God is in control", they are forfeiting God given, preventive opportunities.
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12-28-2016, 02:31 PM
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Re: Is footwashing a heaven or hell issue?
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I've always said, if you have a problem with washing feet, you have other problems more than washing feet.
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Good thing that's not what the Bible says.
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12-28-2016, 02:49 PM
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Re: Is footwashing a heaven or hell issue?
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It is funny how many keep the observance of Christmas, but something the Bible actually gives details isn't necessary. Christmas is non-biblical but footwashing is biblical.
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I've participated in foot washing services for most of my life. However, my point is, Christ wasn't instituting a sacrament or an ordinance. Christ was becoming a living example of service, and admonishing his disciples to do the same. I've seen churches make foot washing a mandatory sacrament, yet they don't serve one another at all. Let's imagine a brother whose lawn mower is broke down. Do you serve him by washing his feet.... or by allowing him to use your lawn mower? Let's say a brother's car is broke down. Do you serve him by washing is feet.... or by helping to get his car repaired? Let's say a brother is out of work and he and his family are struggling to make it by. Do you serve him by washing his feet.... or by buying the family groceries or by helping with a bill?
Foot washing is just an empty ritual where you wet down another man's feet and rub them like you're all pious and spiritual if you're not truly serving one another. However, many church bodies haven't sacramentalized the washing of feet... yet they lovingly serve one another. The one living in loving service to one another is actually living the reality behind what Christ taught us in washing the disciple's feet. The foot washing observers in this example aren't.
That's my point.
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12-28-2016, 02:53 PM
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Re: Is footwashing a heaven or hell issue?
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It is funny how many keep the observance of Christmas, but something the Bible actually gives details isn't necessary. Christmas is non-biblical but footwashing is biblical.
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Like Christmas, foot washing isn't a required sacrament. In fact, the notion that we're required to wash feet as a sacrament originated with the Catholics. It was a required sacrament for all who were about to be baptized or who were taking upon themselves holy orders.
Like the wafer/thimble "Communion" ritual, foot washing as a sacrament is a Catholic innovation.
http://www.catholic.com/encyclopedia...feet-and-hands
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12-28-2016, 03:06 PM
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Re: Is footwashing a heaven or hell issue?
There are only two biblical ordinances in the Church: Water Baptism and the Lord's Supper.
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12-28-2016, 04:30 PM
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Re: Is footwashing a heaven or hell issue?
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I sure do, and Odor Eaters isn't doing the trick. 
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That was funny!
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12-28-2016, 04:31 PM
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Re: Is footwashing a heaven or hell issue?
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There are only two biblical ordinances in the Church: Water Baptism and the Lord's Supper.
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Thank you Mr Grape Juice and Saltines.
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