Is Acts 2:38 your god?

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

I do not believe in the false doctrine of unconditional eternal security.
I do not believe you lose the Holy Ghost every time you fail.
I do believe our assurance lies in Jesus Christ, and his Mercy and Power.

Now that's solid doctrine PP.

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

I do not believe in the false doctrine of unconditional eternal security.
I do not believe you lose the Holy Ghost every time you fail.
I do believe our assurance lies in Jesus Christ, and his Mercy and Power.

Wow. We agree on something.

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by Felicity

No question that we can forfeit our salvation. Absolutely we can!!!

But do you know with full assurance that if the rapture took place tonight or if you died tonight that you will spend eternity with Christ? If you do - great!

Many don't. Sad.

And why don't they? Because they are not taugh or because they are unteachable? Because they still want a bottle instead of a steak? The Holy Ghost is supposed to lead and guide us into all Truth.

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by RevDWW

And why don't they? Because they are not taugh or because they are unteachable? Because they still want a bottle instead of a steak? The Holy Ghost is supposed to lead and guide us into all Truth.

If it's truth that the preacher doesn't agree with it's not truth. You see, the preacher is right even when he is wrong.

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

I do not believe in the false doctrine of unconditional eternal security.
I do not believe you lose the Holy Ghost every time you fail.
I do believe our assurance lies in Jesus Christ, and his Mercy and Power.

Agreed! I do not believe in unconditional eternal security either! Definitely not!!

Can you proclaim with full assurance here and now that if the rapture takes place 10 min. from now or if something happened and you died that you would be okay as far as your soul is concerned?

Do you teach your people that if they're living an overcoming life they don't have to worry about hell?

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Ronzo

Wow. We agree on something.

I agree with a lot of things you say, but what fun is agreement on a forum?

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Now that's solid doctrine PP.

So then you disgree with it????



Just kidding. Dan, I like it that we are here clanking to steel together.

Love Yah Man. And how could I not love a guy with such a great first name!

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Felicity

Agreed! I do not believe in unconditional eternal security either! Definitely not!!

Can you proclaim with full assurance here and now that if the rapture takes place 10 min. from now or if something happened and you died that you would be okay as far as your soul is concerned?

Do you teach your people that if they're living an overcoming life they don't have to worry about hell?

Let's cut through all of the theological crud here.
Here is the essence of salvational assurance..... are you ready??????????

Do you want me to post it?

Originally Posted by RevDWW

And why don't they? Because they are not taugh or because they are unteachable? Because they still want a bottle instead of a steak? The Holy Ghost is supposed to lead and guide us into all Truth.

Is it always the people's fault bro? How can they listen to the Holy Ghost leading and guiding them when sometimes (notice: SOMETIMES) it's the fault of those teaching who are pumping them full of that junk.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Let me address this.

First, Jeff Arnold made a stupid remark when he stated that "Many in the movement do not know God". Does he have statistics on this?? Has he got a line to God where God has told him this? JA is real good at being a "shock jock" type preacher, IMHO.

His statement "You are married to doctrine and have divorced yourself from Deity" is another "Shock Jock" type comment. If examined, this is as ignorant a statement as the first one. The Word, which is exalted even above the name of Jesus, is profitable for DOCTRINE. We only know God by knowing his DOCTRINE.

Paul must have thought DOCTRINE was pretty important when he stated to Timothy:

1Ti 4:13 Till I come, give attendance to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine.

and

1Ti 4:16 Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.

or his warning to those that did not want DOCTRINE.

2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;


John sums it up nicely when he says:

2Jo 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
2Jo 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into [your] house, neither bid him God speed:


Lets face the facts that God places a great emphasis upon doctrine, because it is by doctrine that we can know Christ. Evidentially, JA does not have that same emphesis.

The man knocks the ball out of the park!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!