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08-16-2007, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Brother Strange
Thank you for acknowledging that it is the same God.
Between Testaments, did God change in ANY way?
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No. He is the same, yesterday, today, and forever. And...?
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08-16-2007, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Lost and Found
So, we defend by killing those who either oppose us or someone else? Is that what you are saying? And is THIS is supposed to bring us blessings? Is that your meaning?
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Again, this is the wrong attitude.
We do not kill because someone OPPOSES US! GOOD GRIEF!
If everyone killed just because they were opposed in some way, there would be no humans left in the earth.
NO SIR! We do not kill because someone opposes us!
Sister Alvear is against us killing just because someone is of another country. DUH! No! Not that either!
There is such a thing as RIGHTEOUSNESS.
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08-16-2007, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Lost and Found
No. He is the same, yesterday, today, and forever. And...?
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So WHEN did the God of the O.T. who is the God of the N.T. change his attitude, since you now say that he is AGAINST killing in certain instances?
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08-16-2007, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Brother Strange
So WHEN did the God of the O.T. who is the God of the N.T. change his attitude, since you now say that he is AGAINST killing in certain instances?
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Brother Strange,
You are beating,  or in this instance, shooting against the wind. 
I never said that God is against killing. I said He is against His New Covenant Church killing another soul. BIG DIFFERENCE!
If you will look at the beginning of this thread you will see that it is all about men owning guns to protect themselves against another man or against a corrupt government. That is what we are talking about.
Maybe in your zeal to prove me wrong you are adding to what I am saying? Look again. Where did I ever say that God no longer used death in His judgment against man?
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The Bible is open to those that want Truth, and if they want Truth, they find Truth. They watch individuals squabble over Bible symbolism on the Internet, and leave the Message boards to enter into the real world where live people dwell, and they find Truth. The World Wide Web is full of Internet Ayatollahs who speak their mind. There is only one Truth, and it is not hidden. No matter what anyone says, Truth still converts the sincere.
-DD Benincasa, 12/06/03
www.tkburk.com
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08-16-2007, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Lost and Found
Brother Strange,
You are beating, or in this instance, shooting against the wind.
I never said that God is against killing. I said He is against His New Covenant Church killing another soul. BIG DIFFERENCE!
If you will look at the beginning of this thread you will see that it is all about men owning guns to protect themselves against another man or against a corrupt government. That is what we are talking about.
Maybe in your zeal to prove me wrong you are adding to what I am saying? Look again. Where did I ever say that God no longer used death in His judgment against man? |
Man!
We are going NOWHERE fast!
Neither did I say that he was FOR His New Covenant Church killing another soul!
Hahahaha! 
Oh well, I getting tired of going around and around in circles with you.
You have a good night. I'm going to 
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08-16-2007, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Brother Strange
Man!
We are going NOWHERE fast!
Neither did I say that he was FOR His New Covenant Church killing another soul!
Hahahaha!
Oh well, I getting tired of going around and around in circles with you.
You have a good night. I'm going to |
You are very unclear on what you are trying to say. What exactly is your point?
And I noticed that you never did answer what I posted to you. Too bad. And you say that I am avoiding you??
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The Bible is open to those that want Truth, and if they want Truth, they find Truth. They watch individuals squabble over Bible symbolism on the Internet, and leave the Message boards to enter into the real world where live people dwell, and they find Truth. The World Wide Web is full of Internet Ayatollahs who speak their mind. There is only one Truth, and it is not hidden. No matter what anyone says, Truth still converts the sincere.
-DD Benincasa, 12/06/03
www.tkburk.com
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08-16-2007, 08:57 PM
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“Nonviolence means avoiding not only external physical violence but also internal violence of spirit. You not only refuse to shoot a man, but you refuse to hate him.”
~Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
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"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
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08-16-2007, 09:22 PM
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"THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS WITHIN YOU"
CHRISTIANITY NOT AS A MYSTIC RELIGION
BUT AS A NEW THEORY OF LIFE
TRANSLATED FROM THE RUSSIAN OF COUNT LEO TOLSTOI
BY CONSTANCE GARNETT
New York, 1894
http://www.kingdomnow.org/withinyou.html
http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/4602
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"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
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08-16-2007, 09:32 PM
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The Early Christian Attitude to War by C. J. Cadoux
Published shortly after the First World War, this book is an examination of Christian ethics regarding war and peace. It begins with the teachings of Jesus and continues through the first 2 centuries of the Christian era.
http://www.nonresistance.org/docs_pdf/Cadoux.pdf?
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"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
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08-16-2007, 09:54 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Uh..Praxeas Peter didn't pray or have faith.
Mat 26:40-46
"And he cometh unto the disciples, and findeth them asleep, and saith unto Peter, What, could ye not watch with me one hour? Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak. He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done. And he came and found them asleep again: for their eyes were heavy. And he left them, and went away again, and prayed the third time, saying the same words. Then cometh he to his disciples, and saith unto them, Sleep on now, and take your rest: behold, the hour is at hand, and the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners. Rise, let us be going: behold, he is at hand that doth betray me." |
That verse doesn't say he had no faith nor did not pray...
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