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10-29-2007, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
BTW, who could have guessed Pastor Dan would take a position that satiates flesh?
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To further the thoughts of a previous poster ...
sex satiates the flesh ... yet under the covenant of marriage it is not a sin ...
eating satiates the flesh and is not a sin ... yet it can become gluttony ....
alcohol as a drink can satiate the flesh yet is not a sin but it can become drunkeness ...
satiating the flesh is now a sin?
I have never questioned your ability as a pastor PP ... even when I've disagreed w/ your views .... this is troublesome indeed.
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10-29-2007, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
To further the thoughts of a previous poster ...
sex satiates the flesh ... yet under the covenant of marriage it is not a sin ...
eating is not a sin ... yet it can become gluttony ....
alcohol is not a sin but it can become drunkeness ...
satiating the flesh is now a sin?
I have never questioned your ability as a pastor PP ... even when I've disagreed w/ your views .... this is troublesome indeed.
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I sure am.... Now.
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10-29-2007, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
To further the thoughts of a previous poster ...
sex satiates the flesh ... yet under the covenant of marriage it is not a sin ... eating is not a sin ... yet it can become gluttony .... alcohol is not a sin but it can become drunkeness ...
satiating the flesh is now a sin?
I have never questioned your ability as a pastor PP ... even when I've disagreed w/ your views .... this is troublesome indeed.
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No, you've just called me a dishonest Pharisee.
I don't doubt your ability. I do question the wisdom of saying, "I've always wondered what kind of drunk I would be" on a public forum.
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10-29-2007, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Which is worse,
1. A group of backsliders posting about consuming large amounts of alcohol and really enjoying it ?
or
2. A group of so-called Christians (some supposedly preachers) laughing and yucking it up with the backsliders, glorying in the good ole days when they used to get plastered, and wondering what kind of drunk they would be now?
You people disgust me sometimes.
It's one thing to allow ANYONE, including backsliders, to post here at will. Admin has been very kind in that regard.
Another entirely to openly tolerate, revel in, and promote sin. BTW, drunkenness IS sin. Admin shouldn't be required to put up with that garbage.
The whole "it's cool to be a backslider and promote my wickedness on AFF" thing is a little out of hand.
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I think you need to re-read...because I never saw this...I saw people talking about enjoying a glass of wine or a Maragrita from time to time not once did any speak of getting drunk...........you are over reacting which is not a surprise....
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10-29-2007, 03:08 PM
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Hello AFF!
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Originally Posted by Sister Truth Seeker
I think you need to re-read...because I never saw this...I saw people talking about enjoying a glass of wine or a Maragrita from time to time not once did any speak of getting drunk...........you are over reacting which is not a surprise....
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Ya think?
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10-29-2007, 03:01 PM
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Yea, I say unto thee (all) - cease the personal banter here or some will be taking a break!
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10-29-2007, 03:02 PM
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Yea, I say unto thee (all) - cease the personal banter here or some will be taking a break!
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Okey-dokey.
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10-29-2007, 03:26 PM
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Look, it was real wine.
Period.
But that does not excuse drunkenness, which is a sin.
Glorifying it is wrong.
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10-29-2007, 03:30 PM
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Here's a thought: Is laughing about drunkenness and talking about the "good ol' days", and various experiences the same as laughing and joking about adultery or fornication?
Should we make light of such things? I'm not offended by intelligent conversation. I'm offended when sin is made to be a laughing matter, or into something trivial...perhaps treated as if it is essentially harmless, when it never is. I'm offended when those who hold certain convictions for both Biblical and personal reasons are ridiculed.
Normally I can discuss this topic quite rationally. Today isn't my day, apparently.
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"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
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10-29-2007, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Here's a thought: Is laughing about drunkenness and talking about the "good ol' days", and various experiences the same as laughing and joking about adultery or fornication?
Should we make light of such things? I'm not offended by intelligent conversation. I'm offended when sin is made to be a laughing matter, or into something trivial...perhaps treated as if it is essentially harmless, when it never is. I'm offended when those who hold certain convictions for both Biblical and personal reasons are ridiculed.
Normally I can discuss this topic quite rationally. Today isn't my day, apparently.
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You're doing fine.
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