You know in today's economy that is not as much as it used to be! With the prices of homes these days--I do no think that is much to ask considering.
I would even say 150k-200k
One has to evaluate the median income of his congregation and then act responsibly by living within what would be a reasonable income level for that congregation. He shouldn't have to live at the level of the poorest, but neither should he expect to live at the level of the wealthiest in his congregation.
I believe that Pastor's should take out as much as they need to reasonably support their family, not live "high off the hog" or to get rich. Paul warned Timothy against such things.
One has to evaluate the median income of his congregation and then act responsibly by living within what would be a reasonable income level for that congregation. He shouldn't have to live at the level of the poorest, but neither should he expect to live at the level of the wealthiest in his congregation.
This makes sense to me.
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The Elders of the large Church at Ephesus sat under the Apostle to the Gentiles. What did he counsel THEM about the salary they should expect?
32: And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified.
33: I have coveted no man's silver, or gold, or apparel. 34: Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me.
35: I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive. Acts 20:32-35
WHAT! No expectations of financial gain? Work with your own hands?
Away with Paul says the modern Pentecostal ministry!
One has to evaluate the median income of his congregation and then act responsibly by living within what would be a reasonable income level for that congregation. He shouldn't have to live at the level of the poorest, but neither should he expect to live at the level of the wealthiest in his congregation.
That makes a lot of sense.
one question. does the view shift if the pastor is very successful?
lets say a man pastors a church of 150 and the church can easily support him within that average median range.
but lets say he grows the church to several thousand. does the range increase because of the success he has growing the church?
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One has to evaluate the median income of his congregation and then act responsibly by living within what would be a reasonable income level for that congregation. He shouldn't have to live at the level of the poorest, but neither should he expect to live at the level of the wealthiest in his congregation.
The region where you live has a lot to do with it, in LA a 100k is nothing, one would struggle to live there on that annual income, and actually in Central Valley Ca. it is difficult to make it on 100k. In this region of the world (I can think of a few others as well) 150-200k is not wealthy-
I agree that one cannot expect parity in income moving from one region to another. For example, it cost on average of $465,000 to purchase a house here in our area. Whereas in Atlantic Canada one can purchase a very nice home for $150,000 - $200,000.
However, at the same time the average member of my congregation here in this area is making much more income than the average member in NB. This should be reflected in the pastor's salary.
I agree that one cannot expect parity in income moving from one region to another. For example, it cost on average of $465,000 to purchase a house here in our area. Whereas in Atlantic Canada one can purchase a very nice home for $150,000 - $200,000.
However, at the same time the average member of my congregation here in this area is making much more income than the average member in NB. This should be reflected in the pastor's salary.
The region where you live has a lot to do with it, in LA a 100k is nothing, one would struggle to live there on that annual income, and actually in Central Valley Ca. it is difficult to make it on 100k. In this region of the world (I can think of a few others as well) 150-200k is not wealthy-
One of the (many) reasons we're not moving to CA. lol
My wife was actually offered about 40 grand MORE to work in LA then in the Phoenix area. But then again, home prices are about 300K more as well. (As well as ridiculas taxes.)
One of the (many) reasons we're not moving to CA. lol
My wife was actually offered about 40 grand MORE to work in LA then in the Phoenix area. But then again, home prices are about 300K more as well. (As well as ridiculas taxes.)
I think a decent home in the LA OC area is like 600k-
its outrageous!
Ok what I do not get, is rent is about the same around country basically.
We pay 1900 for a large 5 bedroom home.
A 3 bed 2 bath is about 1250-1600 a month.
Other states are about the same, except! The wages are 1/3 to 1/2 what Ca is...dont get it!
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