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01-10-2008, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by StMark
that you're willing to talk about??? well spill it then 
I know you know of one incident that happend on a tour that is 100% truth. |
Silly he said he knows more THAN he is willing to talk about not THAt he is willing to talk about 
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01-10-2008, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by StMark
Are you 100% sure of this???
Pianoman,are you reading this???
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I said the WHOLE story...not just what transpired at JCM.....
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01-10-2008, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by SoCaliUPC
Mark...tell about the incident and then Pianoman can verify if it is correct.  |
lol! nope pianoman would kill me but i'll tell you what, it would be an eye opener that's for sure
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01-10-2008, 03:10 PM
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GO CUBBIES!
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Originally Posted by StMark
Lagirl,
are you aware of what has transpired at the church that Reba and Donnie pastor??? I sure hope Dottie doesn't attend there- that would disasterous
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i only know what was said here. that is reba....not dottie.
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01-10-2008, 03:12 PM
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GO CUBBIES!
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Originally Posted by Rev
Pretty sad!
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not at all sad!
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01-10-2008, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TRFrance
Prax... this is the problem here.
LW had a very well known and visible ministry.
When he fell into moral failure it was also became widlely known (within Apostolic /UPC circles primarily)
Therefore, if he has indeed repented, it is fair to expect him to at least once make some kind of public admission of wrongdoing and repentance. From all that we know, that has not happened... not in front of any church... not by a statement on his website... nothing.
Until LW publicly acknowledges his sin and the error of his ways, it is natural that Bible-believing saints will be skeptical of his "ministry". New Testament teaching is very clear that unrepentant "saints" should be treated as outcasts by the rest of the body, until they repent of their sinful ways. (Matt 18/ 1Cor 5)
We would hold a minister of the word to that standard. Why shouldn't a prominent "minister" of music be held to a similar standard?
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AMEN!
I would certainly expect to have to do that IF I did something wrong., but repented and wanted to come clean.
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01-10-2008, 05:14 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Originally Posted by stmatthew
You may not have joined specifically to promote a concert, but you did start a thread on it . If you wish to fellowship with a homosexual, go right ahead. But as an owner and an admin of this forum, I am not going to stand by and give credence to this man.
As far as name calling, if the man is a homosexual, am I name calling?? And would it be accurate to call a homosexual a pervert??? |
Well...I've always wanted to call a few folks idiots and morons....because that is what they are...however they may disagree as might others. Personally Matt....I don't know what this man is other than for the hearsay stuff that goes around and honestly I don't see how not calling him a homosexual and pervert means as an admin or owner you or anyone else is approving of the man or his purported lifestyle
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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01-10-2008, 05:16 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Originally Posted by Rev
Did he repent? Do UPC pastors use him now?
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You tell us...has he repented? Who cares if "UPC" pastors use him? And if he has repented and UPC Pastors still refuse to use him...what does that mean?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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01-10-2008, 05:17 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Originally Posted by Rev
The point is that even UPC pastors will normally use someone that has truly repented and been restored.
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That's not a point. That does not tell us LW has not repented
__________________
Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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01-10-2008, 05:18 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Originally Posted by Diamond Jim
He had a similar scandal with a teenage boy in the Chicago area as early as 2 years ago and was asked to leave the church.
as they say,once a predator,usually always a predator.
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Wow....I guess only certain people are fair game around here....HOpefully you know this is a fact and this is not merely slander...was it in the news?
__________________
Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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