Will I.B. retract if 2 billion don't die soon??? - Page 15

Jermyn Davidson · #**141** 12-05-2008, 11:49 PM

The fat lady hasn't sung yet.

Of course, I really do want him to be wrong on this.

Aquila · #**142** 12-06-2008, 08:30 AM

This is one reason why I embraced Partial Preterism. The prophesies are interpreted as being fulfilled, are verifiable historically, attest to Christ's omniscience, and demand that one be ready because Jesus could come tonight.

A_PoMo · #**143** 12-06-2008, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Over the weekend while in Arkansas/Mississippi... I stayed in the room of a young teen who kindly gave up his room to this old man ...

On his night stand was a Sept/Oct. 2007 issue of Irvin Baxter's Endtime Prophecy magazine that screamed "2 Billion People will Die in 12 Months?"

I know that this claim has been discussed here before ... and I was partially amused at his 4 page attempt to prove that 1/3 of the world would be obliterated ... and that it would have to happen in the last year of the Bush Presidency ... and that we are in the midst of WWIII .... and that could be engaging in the Euphrates River War by now ...

What I want to know ... is if this doesn't happen ... will he retract his claims to his readership come this fall?

When did the Church allow speculative prophetic punditry to become a big business?

I glance through the magazine and it's all about selling books and dvds ... Why so much interest in this anyway?

How is this any different from prosperity preaching?

Is it too much to keep our preachers accountable for these types of claims?

I've known Baxter all my life....he's a quack. This is what happens to people who don't spend enough time in reality and spend too much time the fantasy land of so-called apocalyptic future. To me this is the same sort of escapism as video games or Dungeons and Dragons. Once you go down that speculative path you end up in all sorts of strange places. I did my 'thesis' in Bible college on apocalyptic prophecy. I regard it as the biggest waste of my time in Bible college. I should have done it on the fruit of the Spirit or something useful like that.

Esther · #**144** 12-06-2008, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by A_PoMo

I've known Baxter all my life....he's a quack. This is what happens to people who don't spend enough time in reality and spend too much time the fantasy land of so-called apocalyptic future. To me this is the same sort of escapism as video games or Dungeons and Dragons. Once you go down that speculative path you end up in all sorts of strange places. I did my 'thesis' in Bible college on apocalyptic prophecy. I regard it as the biggest waste of my time in Bible college. I should have done it on the fruit of the Spirit or something useful like that.

How can you prove that?

P.S. I thought only doctors were quacks.

Ron · #**145** 12-06-2008, 09:27 AM

When it comes to the Prophetic realm & matters of the same, I only perk up my ears when I hear, "Thus saith the Lord!"

That carries serious weight & can be checked & verified whether it was God.

Anything else is pure speculation, best guess, an opinion.

I made a best guess prediction that our economy would fail next year.

God hasn't told me that.

I could be wrong, in fact, wish to be wrong.

If Irwin Baxter gets people motivated to question thier relationship with God in light of current events, is that a bad thing?

Revelationist · #**146** 12-06-2008, 01:19 PM

[QUOTE=Ron;648847]When it comes to the Prophetic realm & matters of the same, I only perk up my ears when I hear, "Thus saith the Lord!"

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Does that have to be in old english to verify that it's really God?

A_PoMo · #**147** 12-06-2008, 02:01 PM

DA's question is interesting. The NT says that if a prophet's predictions don't come true then don't believe them and give them a forum to air their views. But do we do that? Nope. They say whatever they heck they want to say, we all gasp and wring our hands and talk about how holy and 'deep' they are and never check to see if what they say is true. It's retarded! We make fun of weathermen, and they're right most of the time. If our stockbroker was as accurate as our prophets none of us would invest.

Ron · #**148** 12-06-2008, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron

When it comes to the Prophetic realm & matters of the same, I only perk up my ears when I hear, "Thus saith the Lord!"

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Does that have to be in old English to verify that it's really God?

Not really, but you can tell then if it is God or not, if it doesn't come to pass-he missed it!

Everything else is opinion or conjecture.

A_PoMo · #**149** 12-06-2008, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Revelationist

Not really, but you can tell then if it is God or not, if it doesn't come to pass-he missed it!

Everything else is opinion or conjecture.

Idk, I understand what you're saying but the whole "Thus saith the Lord" approach is pretty parochial. I have a good friend who is very prophetic and he never uses that phrase or anything like it. He'll usually say something to you in private (NEVER in front a crowd w/ a mic) like "It seems to me...", or "I think..." or "I feel pretty strongly that..."; and then he encourages you to pray about it and ask for more personal direction from God about the issue. And so far, in my experience, he's right more than 90% of the time.

Ron · #**150** 12-06-2008, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron

Idk, I understand what you're saying but the whole "Thus saith the Lord" approach is pretty parochial. I have a good friend who is very prophetic and he never uses that phrase or anything like it. He'll usually say something to you in private (NEVER in front a crowd w/ a mic) like "It seems to me...", or "I think..." or "I feel pretty strongly that..."; and then he encourages you to pray about it and ask for more personal direction from God about the issue. And so far, in my experience, he's right more than 90% of the time.

I have seen men say, "Thus saith the Lord" & it came to pass.