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[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by onefaith2

Again how are colors adornment? adorning in that verse is gold, pearls, or costly array

Why do people wear colorful outfits? To adorn themselves. You can't see that?

[onefaith2]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Why do people wear colorful outfits? To adorn themselves. You can't see that?

No I cannot. I don't wear orange or blue to adorn myself. The scripture says costly array, not colored array. So my point is someone with color is not going against what the scripture says, unless they paid a hefty price for it.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by onefaith2

No I cannot. I don't wear orange or blue to adorn myself. The scripture says costly array, not colored array. So my point is someone with color is not going against what the scripture says, unless they paid a hefty price for it.

Two scriptures that the anti-jewelry folks use are:

8 I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.
9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; 10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. 1 Timothy 2:8-10

1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; 2 While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear. 3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; 4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price. 5 For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands: 6 Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughtersa ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement. 1 Peter 3:1-6

Read those two passages. They sorta say the same thing.
--They talk about adorning.
--They say the adorning should not be outward like broided hair, gold, pearls or costly array in the 1 Timothy passage and should not be plaiting hair, wearing gold, and putting on clothes/apparel in the 1 Peter passage.
--then say but the real adorning is good works in the 1 Timothy passage and the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit in the 1 Peter passage.

Stop and think.
In my opinion these passages do not condemn combing/styling hair or wearing jewelry or wearing clothes. They contrast "real" adornment" with the superficial, external adornment. Real "adornment" is an attitude which is displayed in good works and a good attitude. False "adornment" is hair styles, jewelry, clothes. What they are saying is don't emphasize the carnal, external, and visual but what really counts is internal and shows through in the attitude and acts of the person.

Preaching about clothes, jewelry, and hair is, in my opinion, carnal and shallow.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by onefaith2

No I cannot. I don't wear orange or blue to adorn myself. The scripture says costly array, not colored array. So my point is someone with color is not going against what the scripture says, unless they paid a hefty price for it.

So a a sister wearing a bright colored red pattern outfit is not adorning her self? sure



1 Peter 3:3

3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel ;
KJV


1 Peter 3:3

3 Let not yours be the [merely] external adorning with [elaborate] interweaving and knotting of the hair, the wearing of jewelry, or changes of clothes;
AMP


... adorning of plating of the hair, and of wearing gold, or of putting on of apparel...

not just costly

[Sam]

this is part of a post by Timlan from a couple of years ago about Marvin Hicks:

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I don't know how embellished this story was but he has a point. It is really one of the best refutations to those who mindlessly and stupidly Polly-Parrot I Peter 3: 3 to condemn wearing a watch or other jewelry.

Here's the scripture in question:

Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; (KJV)


Hicks told this anecdote many times in campmeeting messages.

After a campmeeting service he preached Hicks said a 12-13 year old boy approached him.

The boy said: "Preacher, do you believe in wearing a wristwatch?"

Hicks told congregations: "Well, he caught me redhanded. I had one on."

After Hicks told the kid "yes son, it's okay to wear a wristwatch", the boy said "well, have I got a scripture for you" and proceeded to tell the camp evangelist off.

After reading 1 Peter 3: 3 about the "wearing of gold" the boy began to lambast Hicks about preaching a campmeeting with a wristwatch on.

Hicks stopped the boy and calmly told him: "Son, read the rest of that verse. The part about 'apparel.'

The boy said "Apparel? What's that ?"

Hicks: "Son, that's your britches. That's the clothes you wear."

(I've pictured this conversation in my mind's eye over the decades ... it must have been hilarious in person.)

Hicks then told the kid: "Son, I'll make a deal with you. You're chewing me out for wearing a wristwatch and your scripture also says 'the wearing of apparel' in the same verse.

"So I'll make a deal with you, son. I'll take my wristwatch off if you'll take your clothes off."

Well, the kid didn't take the camp evangelist up on his offer.

This was some 30 years ago.

Looking on many pentecostal message boards, it seems a good segment of oneness pentecostalism is no less ignorant.


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[NorCal]

1) Earrings could be considered Body Modification. The piercing of the ear (or any other body part) should be abstained from.
2) About gold and other costly array. When it becomes the focal point of your life (as many women take it) it becomes an issue. When you can not marry (or date) a women because you can not (or will not) purchase expensive Diamonds, Pearls, or Metals she has become materialistic.
3) We should be more concerned about keeping our appearance modest, as to not draw attention to us, but to unto Christ in us.

I do take offense to those Preachers and Saints that spend five grand on a suit or dress just because they can. When they start decking out their clothes with huge flowers, or lapel pins, tie clips, etc. They get a boastful spirit about them.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Esther

Why not?

Bump for Truthseeker

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

So a a sister wearing a bright colored red pattern outfit is not adorning her self? sure



1 Peter 3:3

3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel ;
KJV


1 Peter 3:3

3 Let not yours be the [merely] external adorning with [elaborate] interweaving and knotting of the hair, the wearing of jewelry, or changes of clothes;
AMP


... adorning of plating of the hair, and of wearing gold, or of putting on of apparel...

not just costly

You keep mention RED. What do you have against women or men for that matter wearing RED???

[onefaith2]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

So a a sister wearing a bright colored red pattern outfit is not adorning her self? sure



1 Peter 3:3

3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel ;
KJV


1 Peter 3:3

3 Let not yours be the [merely] external adorning with [elaborate] interweaving and knotting of the hair, the wearing of jewelry, or changes of clothes;
AMP


... adorning of plating of the hair, and of wearing gold, or of putting on of apparel...

not just costly

costly is the only thing regarding apparel.. how do you plait hair on apparel? You may wear gold on it perhaps.. thats costly too

[onefaith2]

Originally Posted by Sam

Preaching about clothes, jewelry, and hair is, in my opinion, carnal and shallow.

Allowing complete liberty in these areas leads to carnalness and shallowness.

How many times did the Israelites start worshipping their wealth that God blessed them with? Hey they even made gods out of it. Do you sincerely believe someone cannot made a god out of outward adornment?

Paul contrasted the two because they are contrast. If folks are really busy paintint up the outward, what time then can you spend on the inward? The inward and the outward do contrast which is why Paul admonished shamefacedness and sobriety. We should "control" outward adornment for the sake of working on the inward.