Is there anyone who is Apostolic anymore? - Page 15

shag · #**141** 07-05-2012, 10:09 PM

"Put ye on the mind of Christ", The ol' wwjd...
Definately a mercedes and atleast a $500 suit

hometown guy · #**142** 07-05-2012, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

God can't forgive and restore?

God can and will forgive and I believe he can be used in the ministry but not pastoring... ( or at least not pastoring my family )

tv1a · #**143** 07-06-2012, 02:57 AM

There is a saying you get what you pay for. A cheap suit doesn't last as long as expensive suit. You end up paying more if you buy cheaper. The right $40,000 car doesn't need as many repairs. The motor home beats paying for hotels.
If your mandate is spreading the gospel, you don't need stuff breaking down on you.

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Originally Posted by Titus2woman

They are friendly enough.

And no one really NEEDS a $500 suit and a $40K car or a $100K motor home to take the gospel to the world but plenty o'apostolic preachers/evangelists have them, LOL!

tv1a · #**144** 07-06-2012, 03:19 AM

Wimber-"If we miss the fundamental truth that God is the source of holiness we then make the mistake of attempting to make holiness the way to God..."

Amanah · #**145** 07-06-2012, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BroJoe

I understood the spirit in which he was talking.

There is a great shaking happening right now. Everything that can be shook, will be shook.

You think I'm gonna flop out because I don't agree with wearing no shorts and loose my salvation over a spirit of rebellion? While wearing shorts won't cost me my salvation, a spirit of rebellion will. And I believe with all my heart that GOD sent me to my Man of God and until I'm released I'm in utter obedience.

I'm hanging on tight and I'll let my Pastor and leaders give an account to God for any non-biblical issues...

Bro Joe - what would you do if one day your Pastor came to church and announced that he was no longer going to be responsible for setting and policing policy about standards? What if within 5 years the atmosphere of the Church changes, women are wearing bobs and pants, men have beards, and wear shorts. Not only that but the Pastor now believes that salvation is at repentance, and while he still baptizes in Jesus name and believes and talks about people receiving the HG and speaking in tongues, he doesn't preach three steps to salvation any more. Now what? Do you follow your Pastor in obedience now, do you become confused? do you proclaim him on his way to hell and find another church? what would you do?

Michael The Disciple · #**146** 07-06-2012, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BroJoe

So if they make a good living at doing what they do, they shouldn't be allowed to afford to buy nice things?

I'm glad you're not in charge of the love offering given to evangelists and traveling ministers...

They are not like Jesus. Thats all.

acerrak · #**147** 07-06-2012, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Amanah

Bro Joe - what would you do if one day your Pastor came to church and announced that he was no longer going to be responsible for setting and policing policy about standards? What if within 5 years the atmosphere of the Church changes, women are wearing bobs and pants, men have beards, and wear shorts. Not only that but the Pastor now believes that salvation is at repentance, and while he still baptizes in Jesus name and believes and talks about people receiving the HG and speaking in tongues, he doesn't preach three steps to salvation any more. Now what? Do you follow your Pastor in obedience now, do you become confused? do you proclaim him on his way to hell and find another church? what would you do?

i think the church would grow as he would be comming out of legalism..

scotty · #**148** 07-06-2012, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by acerrak

i think the church would grow as he would be comming out of legalism..

Or because it would be no different from any other church in town.

Titus2woman · #**149** 07-06-2012, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Amanah

Bro Joe - what would you do if one day your Pastor came to church and announced that he was no longer going to be responsible for setting and policing policy about standards? What if within 5 years the atmosphere of the Church changes, women are wearing bobs and pants, men have beards, and wear shorts. Not only that but the Pastor now believes that salvation is at repentance, and while he still baptizes in Jesus name and believes and talks about people receiving the HG and speaking in tongues, he doesn't preach three steps to salvation any more. Now what? Do you follow your Pastor in obedience now, do you become confused? do you proclaim him on his way to hell and find another church? what would you do?

I too would love to hear the answer to this Bro. Joe... because this is no hypothetical question... your own pastor will tell you, I'm sure, that this happens all the time and the people he never thought he'd see do it... even many of the old time preachers, have 'gone charismatic!". And I've seen it with my own eyes many times over the years. A church relaxes it's standards... many breathe a sigh of relief, many who were gone return but there are always the few who begin driving across town looking for the 'man of god' who will still make them wear long sleeves in 105 degree heat and make their wife wear her hair pinned to the top of her head. And the list is long and complicated in most places that have one... and it's different then the list of some other 'man of god' right up the road.

I am not poking fun, I swear... but I now have trouble fathoming the level of brainwashing it takes to convince a person that it is OK if we see a woman's legs from below the knee to the ankles but we should never see a man's legs because that would make him less holy... Or that God gave a man a beard with the intention that he get up every morning and spend 20 minutes shaving it off, making his face smooth like a woman's face to be on the platform but we would never think of telling old Sister Smith to shave HER mustache to be able to play the piano

Or that a woman would have to deal with hair that drags the ground (see my avatar) in order to make it into heaven.

Sadly all of this reminds me that for a time I also wanted to believe myself somehow pleasing God by doing the ridiculous instead of really doing the kingdom's work. I somehow let every bit of common sense be sucked out of my brain in order to fit in, stopped doing my own thinking, and blindly followed another hoping that somehow they had the key to heaven's door and if I just followed closely enough behind I'd make it in. And more sadly, they encouraged me to believe it to feed their own power hungry little egos.

Not my proudest moment and the reason I post in threads like this... just hoping that somewhere in what everyone is saying something will be said that wakes another and helps them connect with a God who is desperately seeking them.

acerrak · #**150** 07-06-2012, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by scotty

Or because it would be no different from any other church in town.

and that is a bad thing in what way? do you think that apostolics is the only church with dress codes,, o certainly not there is trinitarian pentacostals the exact same way. Fact is you couldnt tell the difference in the church services until they had a baptism.

scotty what a lame response.