Those who never heard about Jesus? - Page 15

mfblume · #**141** 08-20-2016, 05:54 PM

Not here to correct, and yet everything a certain someone else says is alleged to be "contradicted by many scriptures," and wrong, and always a personally insulting attack.

Okaaay.

Personally I think Christianity has nothing to do with a belief that suggests the cross is not needful for some people. Christian? I don't think so.

And the hypocrisy goes on. "I am here to judge and condemn you." It's just become nothing but a personal attack, when the issue is not personal to begin with. Just right or wrong.

These verses and their comparison to each other are not found in some people's paradigm:

Eph 4:15....But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:

Gal 4:16....Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

What we're seeing a case of here is truth is not being considered anything but hateful, when in reality truth can be spoke of in love or hate. And these types are those to whom Paul wrote, "Am I your enemy because I tell you the truth?"

shazeep · #**142** 08-20-2016, 07:56 PM

well look, i don't mean to say that is what i'm intending to do, just that is what is happening lol. when i see the spirit of "judge yourselves, don't judge others"--which we all know i can pretty easily exegete--violated--which i can pretty easily demonstrate--well then there you go, what else can i do for you. pick it up where you dropped it or let's move on.

mizpeh · #**143** 08-20-2016, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by shazeep

unfortunately, where your arg falls apart is that i am Christian, and i am not trying to correct anyone; i am here to judge and condemn you, if you think you can justify teaching "All Catholics Are Lost" with Scripture. I believe you slunk away @ "you are gutless..." care to pick it back up from there, or what?

May God have mercy on you.

shazeep · #**144** 08-20-2016, 09:25 PM

ha, well i could have sugar coated it, but there you go. God might not have mercy on me if i leave a millstone about a doubter's neck too. More official sanction is in order imo you people should be ashamed i mean which one are you intimating that i would have a problem with the exegesis or the demonstration.

Evang.Benincasa · #**145** 08-20-2016, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by shazeep

ha, well i could have sugar coated it, but there you go. God might not have mercy on me if i leave a millstone about a doubter's neck too. More official sanction is in order imo you people should be ashamed i mean which one are you intimating that i would have a problem with the exegesis or the demonstration.

Do you have an English translation for the above?

mfblume · #**146** 08-20-2016, 09:39 PM

Exodus 12:21-23 KJV Then Moses called for all the elders of Israel, and said unto them, Draw out and take you a lamb according to your families, and kill the passover. (22) And ye shall take a bunch of hyssop, and dip it in the blood that is in the bason, and strike the lintel and the two side posts with the blood that is in the bason; and none of you shall go out at the door of his house until the morning. (23) For the LORD will pass through to smite the Egyptians; and when he seeth the blood upon the lintel, and on the two side posts, the LORD will pass over the door, and will not suffer the destroyer to come in unto your houses to smite you.

ALL THAT STOOD BETWEEN THE FIRSTBORN AND DEATH WAS THE BLOOD STAINS OF A LITTLE DEAD LAMB.

To walk through that threshold and stake your entire life and survival upon a meek little lamb’s bloodstains on the doorway IS TO HAVE FAITH!

When you stake your entire eternity and your soul’s destiny on getting baptized into the death of Jesus Christ, INSTEAD OF ALL YOUR GOOD DEEDS YOU CAN MUSTER UP TO EARN YOUR WAY TO HEAVEN BY GOOD WORKS, THAT IS FAITH!

You cannot even see what’s happening.
• You are on the inside of the house and outside the destroyer comes and outside the blood of the lamb is displayed before that destroyer, and God’s Spirit stands between the destroyer and you because He sees that blood.
• That represents how in the unseen realm, outside of our physical reality, God’s Spirit sees faith in our hearts upon the death of Jesus as our only means of deliverance from the destruction of eternal death, and that death is prohibited by God to NOT TOUCH US, THAT IS FAITH!

People are so caught up in what they see and what they can physically do that it’s utter foolishness for them to BELIEVE THE DEATH OF JESUS is what they must rely on for salvation.

Call it hate and call it whatever you like. God chose the foolishness of faith in the death of Christ to save us.

It makes much more SENSE to do GOOD and earn your way to glory. But it's FOLLY in the eyes of the world to believe Christ's death is the only things that saves us.

God did not look for works to deliver Israel that night. He didn't look for kind deeds to others. They would have all perished that night if they tried to earn deliverance from good works. he looked for the BLOOD OF THE LAMB.

That's not hate. It's the greatest LOVE there is in God sending His Son to die for humanity that would have all crucified and hated him if they were in Israel's shoes that day.

Call it hate all you like!

Evang.Benincasa · #**147** 08-20-2016, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

Exodus 12:21-23 KJV Then Moses called for all the elders of Israel, and said unto them, Draw out and take you a lamb according to your families, and kill the passover. (22) And ye shall take a bunch of hyssop, and dip it in the blood that is in the bason, and strike the lintel and the two side posts with the blood that is in the bason; and none of you shall go out at the door of his house until the morning. (23) For the LORD will pass through to smite the Egyptians; and when he seeth the blood upon the lintel, and on the two side posts, the LORD will pass over the door, and will not suffer the destroyer to come in unto your houses to smite you.

ALL THAT STOOD BETWEEN THE FIRSTBORN AND DEATH WAS THE BLOOD STAINS OF A LITTLE DEAD LAMB.

To walk through that threshold and stake your entire life and survival upon a meek little lamb’s bloodstains on the doorway IS TO HAVE FAITH!

When you stake your entire eternity and your soul’s destiny on getting baptized into the death of Jesus Christ, INSTEAD OF ALL YOUR GOOD DEEDS YOU CAN MUSTER UP TO EARN YOUR WAY TO HEAVEN BY GOOD WORKS, THAT IS FAITH!

You cannot even see what’s happening.
• You are on the inside of the house and outside the destroyer comes and outside the blood of the lamb is displayed before that destroyer, and God’s Spirit stands between the destroyer and you because He sees that blood.
• That represents how in the unseen realm, outside of our physical reality, God’s Spirit sees faith in our hearts upon the death of Jesus as our only means of deliverance from the destruction of eternal death, and that death is prohibited by God to NOT TOUCH US, THAT IS FAITH!

People are so caught up in what they see and what they can physically do that it’s utter foolishness for them to BELIEVE THE DEATH OF JESUS is what they must rely on for salvation.

Call it hate and call it whatever you like. God chose the foolishness of faith in the death of Christ to save us.

It makes much more SENSE to do GOOD and earn your way to glory. But it's FOLLY in the eyes of the world to believe Christ's death is the only things that saves us.

God did not look for works to deliver Israel that night. He didn't look for kind deeds to others. They would have all perished that night if they tried to earn deliverance from good works. he looked for the BLOOD OF THE LAMB.

That's not hate. It's the greatest LOVE there is in God sending His Son to die for humanity that would have all crucified and hated him if they were in Israel's shoes that day.

Call it hate all you like!

That is really good!