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Old 07-30-2008, 11:13 PM
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Re: What Would You Say?

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Actually (and again speaking to the pastor is probably the best) we have ...when all are there about 80 kids which about only 20% have parents in the church and we treat them all with love ....some parents come and never intend to change but the kids have and are major members in the church....we don't ask for the mom or dad who refuses to change to leave...... .(we aren't the FLDS).......ask your friend to look around our church you will see people at all different stages spiritually..this is a growing church and we have alot of new converts and on any given Sunday can have 20 first time visitors...people from all different cultures and everyone is treated with kindness...........The pastor of this church is a kind man however there is a platform/leadership policy ....but this is not a church who pushes people away if someone doesn't change in two services....we are not in the habit of being mean to anyone no matter how they look and will be invited to the same functions in the church everyone else gets invited to....... however our stand on holiness does NOT change.... I hope this answers the question...btw i tend to ramble

Well with the family you married into you probably better ramble or you will not get a word in edge wise.

j/k I happen to think very highly of your f-i-l and m-i-l. now I am assuming that you all have gotten married when I make that statement.
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Old 07-30-2008, 11:15 PM
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Explain the situation to the pastor. If the pastor is an understanding individual he'll allow her to attend... just not participate in "stuff"

Or they can attend WithoutWalls
Didn't you read what he said? HE said they appear to be Ultra Con....Ultra Cons are not understanding
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Old 07-30-2008, 11:15 PM
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Didn't you read what he said? HE said they appear to be Ultra Con....Ultra Cons are not understanding
Some are. Good grief!
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Old 07-30-2008, 11:19 PM
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Didn't you read what he said? HE said they appear to be Ultra Con....Ultra Cons are not understanding
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Old 07-30-2008, 11:25 PM
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Change Churches, Get out while you can and spare your children all the drama. They are the ones that will end up hurt and disapointed when she is told that she has to obey the rules and is left out of everything.
In my opinion, you are correct. I've seen this in a few churches - it never seems to end well. The longer they stay, the greater the hurt it seems.
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Old 07-30-2008, 11:28 PM
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If the children want to live right I am sure they will be used, they want be punished because of their mothers rebellion.
Forward this to your friend --

It should answer any questions he has.
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Old 07-30-2008, 11:30 PM
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Forward this to your friend --

It should answer any questions he has.
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If the children want to live right I am sure they will be used, they want be punished because of their mothers rebellion.
I think the nickname I gave this bloke, hole headed, is quite accurate after reading this.

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I had a good friend that moved from Nashville to Florida a few years ago. He is an anesthesiologist, and his family has been looking for a good Apostolic church. He was raised Apostolic and attended Christ Church while in Nashville.

He called me a few days ago and told me that they found an Apostolic church that runs about 300-400 people. The church is not UPC and from what he explained to me, is ultra-con.

They really enjoy the services, and his children are getting involved and have made some good friends there.

The problem is that his wife wears pants and see nothings wrong with it at all. He hopes that someone doesn't approach his wife about it, because she is very strong in her opinion about it! She wears dresses to church, but that is the only time she does. It hasn't become an issue yet, but he feels that soon it may be an issue. He called to ask what he should do!

What would you tell him?
I would tell him to tell his kids to say "good-bye" to their new friends because the parents will go to war over the "pants." If the church is even "con" as opposed to "ultr-con" they will not accept deviance from their strategem. It's best to go quietly before people get hurt.
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Old 07-30-2008, 11:35 PM
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I would tell him to tell his kids to say "good-bye" to their new friends because the parents will go to war over the "pants." If the church is even "con" as opposed to "ultr-con" they will not accept deviance from their strategem. It's best to go quietly before people get hurt.
Great advice, you are absolutely correct, but can you imagine? What kind of religious system are we a part of that such division and divisevness and the brethernly cutting off at the knees all because of a woman wearing pants?

Wow, even though I have been in this almost 20 years, some of this stuff still stuns me.

There are so many other issues where there are NO degrees of separation, you are either out or in.

What is the saying? Standing together in truth, standing together in love for the subjective? ...that is the crux anyway.
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Old 07-30-2008, 11:37 PM
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I doubt they would have a video of GC on the site if they left over TV.

and I get what they like, that choir rocks!


still say go talk to this pastor. THE KIDS THE KIDS THE KIDS!

If they didnt have kids it wouldnt matter. but they do so it does. confusion kills a childs faith.
You are so right, Ferd. There is no good explanation for this to a child. If confusion reigns, faith is the first to fall - particularly with children.
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