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12-07-2008, 02:08 PM
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Re: Pitfalls in Solely Relying on Acts for doctrin
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Mizpeh,
...You like EP, the Bishop, TR, and EP, and maybe even Dave are missing the forest from the trees in this thread I believe. First, the thread title speaks of SOLELY using Acts to formulate doctrine while my initial thread also speaks of the pitfalls of making historical narrative pre-eminent over didactic teaching. Ironically, I see how all are using Paul's teaching in Corinthians to be the lead in the pneumatolical discussion that I knew would follow.
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I basically pick and choose how, when, and where to chime in on these discussions, since they've become mostly tiresome to me. This has been discussed, and rediscussed ad nauseam, so I dont see how much more (that's new)can be added to this discussion here. This has been beaten to death for the most part, and there may be some who want to beat it to death even more....
It's an interesting discussion at times, but it's not a mission for me to try to convince people here to change from whatever position they choose to have. So I'm done here for now.
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12-07-2008, 03:52 PM
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Re: Pitfalls in Solely Relying on Acts for doctrin
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
Y'all forgive me but I have had these arguments and have grown weary. But I might revive and take another lick.
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Originally Posted by TRFrance
I basically pick and choose how, when, and where to chime in on these discussions, since they've become mostly tiresome to me. This has been discussed, and rediscussed ad nauseam, so I dont see how much more (that's new)can be added to this discussion here. This has been beaten to death for the most part, and there may be some who want to beat it to death even more....
It's an interesting discussion at times, but it's not a mission for me to try to convince people here to change from whatever position they choose to have. So I'm done here for now.
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I have noticed this so often in conversations with 3 step pentecostals.
After finding their doctrine crumbles as a house of cards, they "grow tired" of the conversation and become "weary" in their defense.
Next will be the cry to ban Dan. 
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12-07-2008, 03:58 PM
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Re: Pitfalls in Solely Relying on Acts for doctrin
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Originally Posted by freeatlast
I have noticed this so often in conversations with 3 step pentecostals.
After finding their doctrine crumbles as a house of cards, they "grow tired" of the conversation and become "weary" in their defense.
Next will be the cry to ban Dan. |
I won't be so quick to credit these responses as anything other than a lack of commitment to deal with the "BOOKS" Dan has just written.
TR and SE have both shown they can grapple with these arguments in the past.
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12-07-2008, 04:03 PM
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Re: Pitfalls in Solely Relying on Acts for doctrin
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
I won't be so quick to credit these responses as anything other than a lack of commitment to deal with the "BOOKS" Dan has just written.
TR and SE have both shown they can grapple with these arguments in the past.
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Big difference in grappling and proving something wrong. 
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12-07-2008, 05:10 PM
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Re: Pitfalls in Solely Relying on Acts for doctrin
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Big difference in grappling and proving something wrong. |
Yep, and that goes both ways. Sheesh.
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12-07-2008, 05:00 PM
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Re: Pitfalls in Solely Relying on Acts for doctrin
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Originally Posted by freeatlast
I have noticed this so often in conversations with 3 step pentecostals.
After finding their doctrine crumbles as a house of cards, they "grow tired" of the conversation and become "weary" in their defense.
Next will be the cry to ban Dan. |
OK, I am a one-stepper, but I don't think that is an accurate statement.
I think both one-steppers and three-steppers get tired of these conversations after a while and just stop posting.
How often can we just keep saying the same things over and over?
Just realize that there are both one-steppers and three-steppers in the Church, or in the Body of Christ, or in the people known as Apostolic, or whatever we want to call ourselves. And both one-steppers and three-steppers need to follow the three "R"s:
Recognize one another,
Respect one another,
Realize we're all in this family together as brothers and sisters
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12-07-2008, 05:11 PM
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Re: Pitfalls in Solely Relying on Acts for doctrin
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Originally Posted by Sam
OK, I am a one-stepper, but I don't think that is an accurate statement.
I think both one-steppers and three-steppers get tired of these conversations after a while and just stop posting.
How often can we just keep saying the same things over and over?
Just realize that there are both one-steppers and three-steppers in the Church, or in the Body of Christ, or in the people known as Apostolic, or whatever we want to call ourselves. And both one-steppers and three-steppers need to follow the three "R"s:
Recognize one another,
Respect one another,
Realize we're all in this family together as brothers and sisters
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I agree.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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12-07-2008, 05:56 PM
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Re: Pitfalls in Solely Relying on Acts for doctrin
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Originally Posted by Sam
OK, I am a one-stepper, but I don't think that is an accurate statement.
I think both one-steppers and three-steppers get tired of these conversations after a while and just stop posting.
How often can we just keep saying the same things over and over?
Just realize that there are both one-steppers and three-steppers in the Church, or in the Body of Christ, or in the people known as Apostolic, or whatever we want to call ourselves. And both one-steppers and three-steppers need to follow the three "R"s:
Recognize one another,
Respect one another,
Realize we're all in this family together as brothers and sisters
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Well Sam...thats why I respect you so much. You made stop and think about my words.
I was a bit sharp in my comment. Both positions of the debate of course feel they are the ones that are right.
It does get old debating what we've debated so long, so many times before.
My apologies. 
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12-07-2008, 06:40 PM
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Re: Pitfalls in Solely Relying on Acts for doctrin
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Originally Posted by freeatlast
Well Sam...thats why I respect you so much. You made stop and think about my words.
I was a bit sharp in my comment. Both positions of the debate of course feel they are the ones that are right.
It does get old debating what we've debated so long, so many times before.
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Ya did good. 
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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12-07-2008, 07:34 PM
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Re: Pitfalls in Solely Relying on Acts for doctrin
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Originally Posted by Sam
OK, I am a one-stepper, but I don't think that is an accurate statement.
I think both one-steppers and three-steppers get tired of these conversations after a while and just stop posting.
How often can we just keep saying the same things over and over?
Just realize that there are both one-steppers and three-steppers in the Church, or in the Body of Christ, or in the people known as Apostolic, or whatever we want to call ourselves. And both one-steppers and three-steppers need to follow the three "R"s:
Recognize one another,
Respect one another,
Realize we're all in this family together as brothers and sisters
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We should all practice what we preach.
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