Is there anyone who is Apostolic anymore?

[Titus2woman]

Originally Posted by scotty

Or because it would be no different from any other church in town.

Imagine the days that every town had 'a church' and if you were a follower of Christ, you belonged to it... what a concept.

[scotty]

Originally Posted by acerrak

and that is a bad thing in what way? do you think that apostolics is the only church with dress codes,, o certainly not there is trinitarian pentacostals the exact same way. Fact is you couldnt tell the difference in the church services until they had a baptism.

scotty what a lame response.

Lame response ? Thanks, it was an honest one. Little early this morning to be swinging the club already, ya think?

Anyway, so the town you live in ONLY has apostolic/pentecostal/ churches? No baptist, JW's, etc etc.? Do you believe every church in your town is annointed ? Preaches the biblical truths ?

I'm not one who believes the UPC or any other org holds the copyright to salvation, but I'm not ignorant enough to believe everyone is saved in their own little religious world regardless of what their beliefs are either.

[scotty]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

Imagine the days that every town had 'a church' and if you were a follower of Christ, you belonged to it... what a concept.

It would be a utopia for sure, and a much better world to live in.

Now, just define "follower of Christ" and have everyone agree to that definition and we'll be on our way.

[Titus2woman]

Originally Posted by scotty

It would be a utopia for sure, and a much better world to live in.

Now, just define "follower of Christ" and have everyone agree to that definition and we'll be on our way.

That is the definition Scotty... Simplicity has replaced the complex and each man is indeed working out his OWN salvation... helped along by a group that loves him like Jesus did.

Your post just made me think of it and gave me a little hope that it once was and one day shall be again.

I pray the day never come (while knowing very well that it might) when the church will see enough adversity from without that we will stop creating our own divisions from within and will unite as a matter of survival. How it would please God if we could do it without being forced.

[scotty]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

That is the definition Scotty... Simplicity has replaced the complex and each man is indeed working out his OWN salvation... helped along by a group that loves him like Jesus did.

Your post just made me think of it and gave me a little hope that it once was and one day shall be again.

I pray the day never come (while knowing very well that it might) when the church will see enough adversity from without that we will stop creating our own divisions from within and will unite as a matter of survival. How it would please God if we could do it without being forced.

I agree. And sometimes I wonder how things would be if that one line was left out of the bible, working out our own salvation. I'm sure at some point this is where the division started. Even the apostles had to part ways. Yet they never saw each other as unsaved, nor did they continue to tear one another down.

If this place could garner that kind of respect for one another's convictions, it would be a good starting point.

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by scotty

Lame response ? Thanks, it was an honest one. Little early this morning to be swinging the club already, ya think?

Anyway, so the town you live in ONLY has apostolic/pentecostal/ churches? No baptist, JW's, etc etc.? Do you believe every church in your town is annointed ? Preaches the biblical truths ?

I'm not one who believes the UPC or any other org holds the copyright to salvation, but I'm not ignorant enough to believe everyone is saved in their own little religious world regardless of what their beliefs are either.

number one we are talking about standards, and any repsonse to defend any type of legalism is lame.

Personal standards i have no issue, but when standards are preached from the pullpit and it becomes the measure of a persons rightousness, it has to go.

second i belive God will save people out of all different denominations.

oneness, trinitarian, Jw catholic etc,

acts 2:38 message was based around the prophecy of Joel, which Joel stated whosoever calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Majority of churches including Jw, baptize,

while i agree no specific denominations holds the copyright of salvation. it isnt up to us to condem people to hell or say they are saved or not saved.

Clearly jesus said you will know them by their fruit.

also i wanna know who does more evangelizing than a jw?


Also why does allowing people to dress themselves instead of a dress code make them like any other church? does your mother still pick your clothes out for you or do you know make your own choice.


Its the same with the church, Modesty is not a code, Holiness is not a define outlook of what one should or should not wear. Holiness is seperation.

while there is nothing wrong with dress, it is the Spirit of God and your attitude that seperates you from this world, Sinners can dress just like any apostolic.

[Pheobe2]

Amen Acerrak !

[Amanah]

Henry's wives lost their heads; Savonarola and others were burnt at the stake, William Tydale was burnt at the Stake for proclaiming the authority of Scripture in the Church.

The Hallmark of democracy is the free market place of ideas. The time we live in is unlike the age of Roman Papist rule in that we are free to earnestly contend for the faith that was once delivered to the Saints. Although these freedoms are being eroded as we speak. Our Pastors along with the laity must be very brave indeed to swim against the stream of political correctness, speak against the sins of abortion, homosexuality, adultery, fornication, lust, pornography.

While there is only one body of Christ, and one Church, we don't want a one world church ruled by a dictator.

We do want to ensure that freedom of speech is always a protected right of the Church. We do want to preach the Word of God as openly as we can, for as long as we can.

In this respect, this Forum is a beacon of free speech.

We need to stand up against sin as it is called sin in the Bible, much more then we need to quibble about whether a woman sleeves should be at her elbow, or must, on the pain of eternal damnation below it.

[scotty]

Originally Posted by acerrak

number one we are talking about standards, and any repsonse to defend any type of legalism is lame.

Personal standards i have no issue, but when standards are preached from the pullpit and it becomes the measure of a persons rightousness, it has to go.

second i belive God will save people out of all different denominations.

oneness, trinitarian, Jw catholic etc,

acts 2:38 message was based around the prophecy of Joel, which Joel stated whosoever calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Majority of churches including Jw, baptize,

while i agree no specific denominations holds the copyright of salvation. it isnt up to us to condem people to hell or say they are saved or not saved.

Clearly jesus said you will know them by their fruit.

also i wanna know who does more evangelizing than a jw?


Also why does allowing people to dress themselves instead of a dress code make them like any other church? does your mother still pick your clothes out for you or do you know make your own choice.


Its the same with the church, Modesty is not a code, Holiness is not a define outlook of what one should or should not wear. Holiness is seperation.

while there is nothing wrong with dress, it is the Spirit of God and your attitude that seperates you from this world, Sinners can dress just like any apostolic.

I didn't know the thread was restricted to standards or that was the point of discussion. You made mention of mode of baptism and oneness/trinitarian yourself. Last I checked, those were not "standards", per se.

No one evanglizes more than jw's. Just because someone spends more time spreading a message than someone else doesn't make the message true.

I agree we, personally, shouldnt condem anyone. And this is something both sides need to wake up to.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

Imagine the days that every town had 'a church' and if you were a follower of Christ, you belonged to it... what a concept.

I think that would be great... in the dark ages, maybe not.