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08-25-2007, 09:44 PM
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dthomas,
what is your take on all this?
C'mon, bro, speak it!
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08-26-2007, 12:56 PM
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But to say that homosexuality is preferable to legalism is quite a stretch. Too big a stretch for me.
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Why not? The pharisees were the only ones that Jesus got truly angry with.
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08-26-2007, 01:07 PM
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Why not? The pharisees were the only ones that Jesus got truly angry with.
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The spirit of homosexuality denies the power and ored of God and creation itself. In that dimension, it is more akin to the Saducees, who were completely unspiritual. Jesus had NO time for them. The Pharisees He did at least deal with, and salvaged some of them.
You will find nowhere in the Gospels where He spent any time working on a Saducee.
Homosexuality is a far bigger problem to deal with than legalism. At least with a legalist, you have a person who values the Word of God and can be taught.
Generally speaking, homosexuals totally deny the authority of God or His Word.
If this is a common conception--that homosexuality is preferable to legalism--then the movement is in worse shape than I thought.
That is a sick and totally twisted perception.
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"Then answered Amos, and said to Amaziah, I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son; but I was an herdman, and a gatherer of sycomore fruit:
And the LORD took me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel."
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08-26-2007, 01:17 PM
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You make an excellent point. I do question if legalists can be taught. Without going into detail, I've observed the best legalists make the best homosexuals. I shouldl go through the similarities between homosexuality and legalism, but I don't want to be accused of calling all legalists homosexual.
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The spirit of homosexuality denies the power and ored of God and creation itself. In that dimension, it is more akin to the Saducees, who were completely unspiritual. Jesus had NO time for them. The Pharisees He did at least deal with, and salvaged some of them.
You will find nowhere in the Gospels where He spent any time working on a Saducee.
Homosexuality is a far bigger problem to deal with than legalism. At least with a legalist, you have a person who values the Word of God and can be taught.
Generally speaking, homosexuals totally deny the authority of God or His Word.
If this is a common conception--that homosexuality is preferable to legalism--then the movement is in worse shape than I thought.
That is a sick and totally twisted perception.
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Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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08-26-2007, 11:30 PM
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Why not? The pharisees were the only ones that Jesus got truly angry with.
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What about the money changers in the Temple?
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08-26-2007, 12:56 PM
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08-26-2007, 01:07 PM
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God called us to be separated, not isolated. If we are to be salt and light, we cannot hide behind our own little walls and horde it all to ourselves.
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Walls are for protection but we must be careful WHERE we build our walls...
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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08-26-2007, 01:24 PM
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I have read where some "religious" gays try to make the Bible fit their lifestyle.
That would be legalism of an extreme variety--attempting to circumvent the spirit of the law by wresting the Scripture to fit their personal preferences.
That is the most insidious kind of legalism.
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"Then answered Amos, and said to Amaziah, I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son; but I was an herdman, and a gatherer of sycomore fruit:
And the LORD took me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel."
--Amos 7:14-15
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08-26-2007, 01:33 PM
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The same techniques legalists use to promote dress codes and no tv are the same techniques homosexuals use to condone homosexuality.
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Originally Posted by Amos
I have read where some "religious" gays try to make the Bible fit their lifestyle.
That would be legalism of an extreme variety--attempting to circumvent the spirit of the law by wresting the Scripture to fit their personal preferences.
That is the most insidious kind of legalism.
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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08-26-2007, 01:35 PM
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The same techniques legalists use to promote dress codes and no tv are the same techniques homosexuals use to condone homosexuality.
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Or that radical liberals use to circumvent clear Bible absolutes.
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"Then answered Amos, and said to Amaziah, I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son; but I was an herdman, and a gatherer of sycomore fruit:
And the LORD took me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel."
--Amos 7:14-15
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