When the Pharisees Accused Jesus of Being used by the Devil...

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

No it's an assumption that if somehow someone studied psychology or basketweaving ... they don't have the giftings to counsel using the Word of God because a select few have declared it so ....

{Help you Berk???}

Talk about reading INTO things! It has nothing to do with merely studying psychology (a form of worldly wisdom), it has to do with being a practitioner of it and trying to force it into the Church. But this thread is about being accused of being used by the devil.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by J-Roc

THE TRUTH IS INCONTROVERTIBLE...MALICE MAY ATTACK, IGNORANCE MAY DERIDE IT, BUT IN THE END THERE IT IS!

The problem here is that a "response" is not the same as an "attack", and the two are being made equivalent.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Rhoni,

Then I guess I am deluded and believing a lie, because I don't believe for a moment that RRFord and Coonskinner have it out for you. I do believe that they disagree with what you are doing, and they point it out whenever they feel like it.

So do I, come to think of it (point out what I disagree with when I feel like it). So just lump me in with them.

I personally think you are way too sensitive to be participating in these online forums. You consistently are deeply offended, and usually by comments that are no different from what is offered to every other person. In other words, what I would say to you when I disagree is no different than what I would say to Pastor Poster, Chan, Coonskinner, Felicity or anyone else, e.g., I'm not picking on you.

I haven't seen inconsistency from these men. Chan calls it like he sees it all the time, on every topic that interests him, no matter who authored the first post. He's disagreed with me quite vehemently before, and I don't recall taking it personally. He has the right to think what he thinks and state what he thinks, just like you do.

Coonskinner was quite amiable in his first few posts on your thread. Then he happened to disagree with some of your advice offered, and suddenly he was Public Enemy No. 1.

What I object to from you is this constantly offered up problem of being picked on and victimized and mistreated, allegedly in a way no one else is subjected to, and I just don't see it. I think there are a myriad of posting styles and points of view and they are all worth hearing, including yours, but you seem to only want to hear the ones that agree with you, and if anyone posts something in disagreement, you respond defensively rather than intellectually, which really doesn't work in a productive manner.

You seem to always feel you are being judged, when, again, folks simply disagree with you. Instead of supporting your points, defending your arguments and propping up your perspectives, you spend your time being offended and stating how offended you are, and then you are even more offended when some people find that sort of response discredits you overall.

The answer is simple ... if you don't like Dear Rhoni ... don't read it .. but to dedicate man hours into somehow discrediting it ... is transparent in its real motives.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Chan

Talk about reading INTO things! It has nothing to do with merely studying psychology (a form of worldly wisdom), it has to do with being a practitioner of it and trying to force it into the Church. But this thread is about being accused of being used by the devil.

Chan ...you know that there are two strands of conversation in this thread .. the title is irrelevant .. own up to it.

[whollyHis]

Can a Holy Ghost filled person allow themselves to be a 'tool' for the enemy??? Can they be used to promote division and such in the Body???

Originally Posted by Praxeas

A heart specialist studies the heart. A psychologist studies the mind. There is nothing wrong with counseling and I have known churches, including UPCs that have on staff a professional counselor.

That doesn't mean though that I buy into the whole psychological field of study, but clearly it's NOT evil to counsel someone for their problems and it would be even more advantageous to do so from a biblical perspective

Psychology is not merely a study of the mind, it's a study based in wordly philosophies. As for counseling, that's what we have pastors, elders and mature saints for. You cannot mix psychology with the Bible any more than you can mix what is unholy with what is holy.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

The answer is simple ... if you don't like Dear Rhoni ... don't read it .. but to dedicate man hours into somehow discrediting it ... is transparent in its real motives.

Oh, come on, Daniel. That isn't the way a forum works. You don't avoid the threads you disagree with. You respond to the threads you disagree with, and that's what keeps the conversation going.

I personally don't normally read "Dear Rhoni", but because this conversation came up this morning, I decided to read it more thoroughly so I could comment with some level of intelligence. I have been posting online with Rhoni far longer than you have, so in many ways you speak of that which you know not.

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Chan ...you know that there are two strands of conversation in this thread .. the title is irrelevant .. own up to it.

Just trying to separate the two.

Originally Posted by whollyHis

Can a Holy Ghost filled person allow themselves to be a 'tool' for the enemy??? Can they be used to promote division and such in the Body???

Yes.

[Michlow]

I find this all very very sad. And now I remember why I don't come around very much anymore.